Cyber Sub bomb problem

[Tom Brady]

 

[THTB]

CHANGE THE BOMB TO 4 DAMNIT!

Agreed on that.

 

[SWBeta]

This is actually a pretty big problem.

Hope it gets patched very soon.

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[Krayzie]

Good shit, Bill.

 

[Aikou]

Does the same problem occur if you have the throw mapped to one button? Or does this problem only occur if you are hitting FP +FK at the same time?

 

[Yuna]

"Change the bomb to 4, dammit" seems like the best possible solution here. I doubt it'd even be that hard.

 

[SWBeta]

Well, you could change the button to 4, remove/change all f,f/b,b inputs in the game, or design it so the move only comes out when the 2nd directional button is held. f,f, neutral should not bring the special out.

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[Aikou]

"Change the bomb to 4, dammit" seems like the best possible solution here. I doubt it'd even be that hard.

well if NRS' tweak system works like they said I doubt it will be much trouble for them to fix it, the only thing I would wonder is if they would have to release a patch to change the input on the command list or if that could be changed on the fly as well

 

[BecomingDeath13]

I'm just curious. Since you can block cancel out of a dash couldn't you do a quick block just before the throw or the 3 mix-up and avoid triggering the bomb?

 

[MKF30]

Personally, aside from this anyone else think the bombs are utterly useless? Unless you throw EX ones, I swear they never hit lol even when your foe is near them exploding...

I don't know, but I do like Cyber Sub more then reg one

 

[Saviorself]

oh no

ice bombs are a mindfuck, i mean if someone is at full screen, you shoot a far far bomb they get put in a situation they either: jump or move forward.

i mean you have to be smart with the bomb usage, Ex Bombs are awesome though.

back to topic, yea it sucks that 3,3 is one of his best normals

 

[SWBeta]

I'm just curious. Since you can block cancel out of a dash couldn't you do a quick block just before the throw or the 3 mix-up and avoid triggering the bomb?

The few frames it takes to dash cancel and recover from block frames can make a huge difference in a split-second situation.

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[EGP Wonder_Chef]

You know, if you press backwards after your dash command it won't do bombs. So something like wouldn't give you bombs. It's rather easy once you get used to it too.

 

[Saviorself]

good find man but it still such a hindrance

edit: it works but sometimes there is the accidental b+fk sweep....man this sucks

 

[vegeta]

Yeah, Picked him up as my secondary and noticed that, that sucks man.

 

[vegeta]

Now I just noticed something with the "bomb problem" I think it makes a difference if you play on Pad or Stick. I can do both. On pad by default throwing is mapped to R1, I couldn't dash and do 1+3 because the problem happened, BUT I could dash and do R1 and it worked without issue. So at least for pad players that use default mappings it's a pretty good work around.

 

[Dunxco]

"Change the bomb to 4, dammit". Is a pretty good solution. Except you'd also have to redo the Slide input otherwise far bomb overlaps with Slide.

bf+3 for slide, and bb+4, ff+4 and bbf+4 for close/med/far bombs sounds reasonable.

 

[SWBeta]

You know, if you press backwards after your dash command it won't do bombs. So something like wouldn't give you bombs. It's rather easy once you get used to it too.

This is the best way to dash and throw or apply 3-kick mix-ups. It's so easy, too. This doesn't need a fix at all. His command list is fine.

 

[Saviorself]

you dont get the b+3 sweep wwhen u go f f b?

 

[UsedForGlue]

Will sub-zero's bombs actually be changed to 4?

 

[SWBeta]

Will sub-zero's bombs actually be changed to 4?

It doesn't need to be changed

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[UsedForGlue]

It doesn't need to be changed

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I take it that his 3 starter strings are not ment to used after a dash? But after a safe jump, hence the spitting of a bomb if you try it from a dash.

Is it a case that if you could dash into these combos that it would be too strong?

 

[UsedForGlue]

And if that is not the reason, then yes, it does need to be changed.

 

[Apocalypse]

I take it that his 3 starter strings are not ment to used after a dash? But after a safe jump, hence the spitting of a bomb if you try it from a dash.

Is it a case that if you could dash into these combos that it would be too strong?

And if that is not the reason, then yes, it does need to be changed.

You still can dash into those combos without releasing a bomb. It just requires a bit more dexterity, pressing Back while in dash frames before the 3

 

[SWBeta]

You still can dash into those combos without releasing a bomb. It just requires a bit more dexterity, pressing Back while in dash frames before the 3

Thank you.