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Guide - Cutthroat CT Kano and the meta of B1 and db1

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
CT does 60% in the corner.
So basically buff Cyber? Seems like all verdict is still CT the strongest. 60%. 1 bar? I done 60% 3 bars but not 1. How do you do accomplishthat?
*edit* never mind! I just found out how to do it with two bars.
 
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Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
DB1 overlooked? Bruuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I am honestly shocked they made the mistake of buffing this variation yet again. Hoping so hard that they give us a reason why they thought it was a good idea when Cutthroat was already, and has always been, the best variation lmao. Meanwhile in Cyber town...:(
 

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
DB1 overlooked? Bruuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I am honestly shocked they made the mistake of buffing this variation yet again. Hoping so hard that they give us a reason why they thought it was a good idea when Cutthroat was already, and has always been, the best variation lmao. Meanwhile in Cyber town...:(
now CT kano can compete with the rest of the cast very well and cyber is a fantastic counter pick. If they buffed Cyber too much, it would invalidate CT. This was actually the best way to buff Kano
 

tafka Djinn

One for three off the roof
now CT kano can compete with the rest of the cast very well and cyber is a fantastic counter pick. If they buffed Cyber too much, it would invalidate CT. This was actually the best way to buff Kano
I generally keep from commenting on Kano when I can, the initial salt in the sub-forum got to me, but I have to say that an even an overbuffed Cyber would be hard pressed to invalidate CT. CT has the mixup, the damage, and the frame data to compete as a valid rushdown character with decent anti-zoning options. Cyber has nice frame data, and a mid knife, that's about it.
 

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
Not as a counter poke, but in frame situations where the 50/50 option is too slow to beat the opponents button.

In the situations where you would usually poke, try 3,2 instead.
I feel like the times I would normally d3 or d1 are the times when b3 b1 would be better. Where I would normally d4, I feel like 32 won't reach. Am I missing something?
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
now CT kano can compete with the rest of the cast very well and cyber is a fantastic counter pick. If they buffed Cyber too much, it would invalidate CT. This was actually the best way to buff Kano
I don't know about fantastic, he doesn't have that many winning matchups and most matchups you'd counterpick with Cyber are usually 5-5s. They literally only need to increase the damage on his knives (no more than 7%) and make either/both DB1 or/and 2+4MB scale less and that's all he needs to compete with more of the cast, it's not even hard and it wouldn't break him but they refuse to do it for some unknown reason. All that would do is give him average damage, AVERAGE. It also wouldn't invalidate CT, in fact I think it's going to be very hard for Cyber to invalidate Cutthroat with the tools it has. Cutthroat just has too good a toolset to get invalidated by the other two that easily imo. I feel like buffing his not-as-good-as-Cutthroat variations is the best way to buff him so them buffing Cutthroat and giving Cybernetic nothing is questionable to me. The Commando buffs are great and were necessary, I'm glad they buffed it the right way, but Cutthroat's weren't necessary and it makes me sad as a Cyber player that for some reason it gets nothing.
 

GrimJack

Rock paper scissor specialist
can somebody tell me the frame of string cancel into EX Buff. Like B12-B121-112-F4-B32
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Hopefully tomorrow balance changes Kast will show Kano Cyber buffs. More damage on knives, more plus on B1, 3, grab. CT is damn perfect!

Maybe, this is a long shot, even a two input command grab change. But that's a looong shot!
 

ando1184

Noob
In the beta, does CT's normal buff still take DoT from him? If so, I'd like to see that gone, I mean there's no reason to use it it seems, except as a debuff. Anyway, about cyber, I agree with yeuph. He just needs a dmg increase to his projectiles and combo starter and he's golden. Seeing how every other zoner in the game has really really good zoning and their variations revolve around how effectively they zone, I don't think it's too unreasonable a request. I mean have you guys seen leather face?!?
 
In the beta, does CT's normal buff still take DoT from him? If so, I'd like to see that gone, I mean there's no reason to use it it seems, except as a debuff. Anyway, about cyber, I agree with yeuph. He just needs a dmg increase to his projectiles and combo starter and he's golden. Seeing how every other zoner in the game has really really good zoning and their variations revolve around how effectively they zone, I don't think it's too unreasonable a request. I mean have you guys seen leather face?!?
Trust me of they get rid of that the need demand would be insane. We get high damage and frame traps 15% that you lose is definitely worth it. Also you can debuff and tada you're done losing health.
 
Hopefully tomorrow balance changes Kast will show Kano Cyber buffs. More damage on knives, more plus on B1, 3, grab. CT is damn perfect!

Maybe, this is a long shot, even a two input command grab change. But that's a looong shot!
Mmm Mmm mmm 2in1 cancellable would be great give us the Brokeshaper treatment.
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Trust me of they get rid of that the need demand would be insane. We get high damage and frame traps 15% that you lose is definitely worth it. Also you can debuff and tada you're done losing health.
It's still a bug. The pause menu says: You don't lose health. They need to change it if it's untrue.