Community-Restricted Kabal and System Kabal (UPDATES TBA)

[REO]

You sound like a grunt in the nhl who is complaining that helmets are now mandatory and that you can't blindly bash the other teams head in to injure their star players

This made no sense and has nothing to do with competitive Mortal Kombat.

 

[CaseyJones]

This made no sense and has nothing to do with competitive Mortal Kombat.

Go to bed and read it in the morning. It makes tons of sense and relates to your thinking regarding the glitch usage in tournament play.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

And then people wonder why I fill threads with giant sandwiches.

If I agree, I'm helping damn the game to a lifetime of metagame based around mechanical failure.
If I disagree, I'm against the "evolution" of the game and viewed as a weenie.

And now Maximo and Cyrax are both on the hill as well? It's like the NWO coming out of the audience.
This is fucking insane.

If you guys genuinely want to compete dealing with something like this, go for it.

 

[FrothyOmen]

You sound like a grunt in the nhl who is complaining that helmets are now mandatory and that you can't blindly bash the other teams head in to injure their star players

This made no sense and has nothing to do with competitive Mortal Kombat.

+1 reo

 

[quandaghost]

Why does it even matter and why are you arguing against it. If you let it happen to you it's your fault. Will you like it? No, no you wouldn't. The fact of the matter is that it's in the game. The characters can do them. So why not do them. I would get mad if it happened to me, but at the same time I would be like heck that's MK for you. If you don't wanna deal with the B.S. the game throws at you then leave it, but imma tell you right now there are worse glitches in the gaming world and worse characters
Hokuto No Shinken ( fist of the north star): any hit after the 30th hit in a combo would instantly bounce and cause a infinite juggle

Toki: Had mix-up like MVC2 magneto, had full screen unblockable instant death move, teleport, projectile, projectile counter, a counter move, feints

Double Dragon: I just wish you wouldn't chose Abobo cause you weren't gonna win

Street Fighter 2: Guile handcuffs

Blazblu Calamity Trugger: Arakune had a instant curse wich means you had to guess where he was throwing bugs at you while he was trying to mix you up, he could grab you and combo you oh and he did damage.

Just stop complaining, stop asking for a hotfix and play the damn game like it was 1992-1999

 

[REO]

Now i understand how you feel brother, i will support you 100% on this thread, our characters really needz these tools, the community should get together as a whole and embrace the new future of mk at the highest possible level, limiting our characters abilities to win is a slap in the face to the players really, i don't want the community to dictate what and what not to do with our characters to be able to compete, i'm gonna call for a cyrax and Kabal myself if they don't allow our characters to compete with all the tools they were given to be competitive, I hope the rest of the community understand our point of view =(

Think of it this way, the way the current MK game is, Kabal is just winning and majority of the cast cannot compete. If we play competitive Mortal Kombat with no custom in-game character rules restricting our characters, more characters become viable. Now characters like Raiden, Skarlet, and your beloved Cyrax all have a chance to win a major. This is not possible in the current version, or it would've happened already since it's extremely unlikely. Players just look at glitches and start to panic, they don't think outside of the box on a competitive standpoint.

 

[CaseyJones]

And then people wonder why I fill threads with giant sandwiches.

If I agree, I'm helping damn the game to a lifetime of metagame based around mechanical failure.
If I disagree, I'm against the "evolution" of the game and viewed as a weenie.

And now Maximo and Cyrax are both on the hill as well? It's like the NWO coming out of the audience.
This is fucking insane.

100% reset, wins 2 rounds.

meme. someone do it

 

[Maxter]

BTW Reo did you find out how to activate the invincibility and defense mechanism of Kabal in the middle of a fight without having to finish the round? it easier to win matches this way, if you get health lead i've been doing it online and people are getting used to it, i believe most characters can activate this defense mechanism we just need to know how its possible, i discovered how to do it with jax already also, cd jr is happy and he is going back to jax because of these new techs, at least these new techs are encouraging people to go back to characters they loved and stopped using them because they thought they suck.

 

[pickle keeper]

You're not even quoting him, you're quoting his quotes of somebody else. What are you even talking abo.............

The quotation marks all look like asterisks on my shitty monitor.

 

[CaseyJones]

BTW Reo did you find out out to activate the invincibility and defense mechanism of Kabal in the middle of a fight without having to finish the round? it easier to win matches this way, if you get health lead i've been doing it online and people are getting used to it, i believe most characters can activate this defense mechanism we just need to know how its possible, i discovered how to do it with jax already also, cd jr is happy and he is going back to jax because of these new tech, at least these new techs are encouraging people to go back to characters they loved and stopped using them because they thought they suck.

now this one smells like the guy who lives under the bridge

p.s.

this thread makes more sense the later you stay up

 

[FrothyOmen]

Figure out Smoke's so I can level up and play him at the highest possible level. It's only fair that I use all techs to my advantage.

Not like anyone's going to legitimately discuss this anyways.

Fuck this, I'm going to bed

 

[REO]

BTW Reo did you find out out to activate the invincibility and defense mechanism of Kabal in the middle of a fight without having to finish the round? it easier to win matches this way, if you get health lead i've been doing it online and people are getting used to it, i believe most characters can activate this defense mechanism we just need to know how its possible, i discovered how to do it with jax already also, cd jr is happy and he is going back to jax because of these new techs, at least these new techs are encouraging people to go back to characters they loved and stopped using them because they thought they suck.

Damn, man. You guys are really leveling up over there. Now Jax is a threat again, too? Oh, well. My kabody is ready. I had no idea some character could activate the glitch during mid-fight, this makes things very interesting. What if a player uses it himself to counter another player who activated it via round win? The possibilities and mindgames are endless. We definitely need to explore this game at this level next time I come over for games.

 

[CaseyJones]

SHAZBOT!

JC can beat this. If the guy activates the glitch you can just XRay parry it. It has to do with the fact that the hits don't register or something but yeah, you can pop 50% into nut punch and the glitch is then disabled.

 

[REO]

SHAZBOT!

JC can beat this. If the guy activates the glitch you can just XRay parry it. It has to do with the fact that the hits don't register or something but yeah, you can pop 50% into nut punch and the glitch is then disabled.

Take your trolling else where unless you provide a video with proof.

 

[CaseyJones]

Take your trolling else where unless you provide a video with proof.

Sure no problem I'll even put captions detailing how to activate it. You'll get your proof sometime this week.

 

[NoDoubt]

Once apon a time we had to battle glitch jabs + auto-fire enabled (this is not even in the damn game, its a hack created during gameplay) and we could still win with our faith. Think glitch jabs on turbo with automatic jab-cancelling into combos. If we can overcome glitches created in a damn emulator program lol, u guys can do IT put YO back INTO IT ! XD These mk9 homies are too used to patches. They havent experienced the raw, nasty side to real compeTiTioN. You either play or u cry. BUT....dont play and cry. Choose and roll with it

 

[Cat]

threads/ arguments like this in the community.. make me glad mk9 is dying after MLG Dallas...

 

[CaseyJones]

Once apon a time we had to battle glitch jabs + auto-fire enabled (this is not even in the damn game, its a hack created during gameplay) and we could still win with our faith. Think glitch jabs on turbo with automatic jab-cancelling into combos. If we can overcome glitches created in a damn emulator program lol, u guys can do IT put YO back INTO IT ! XD These mk9 homies are too used to patches. They havent experienced the raw, nasty side to real compeTiTioN. You either play or u cry. BUT....dont play and cry. Choose and roll with it

The difference today is some want to play characters they enjoy and think should be tournament viable. The gamers during the days you describe were not the same as today. You can see this phenomenon in other genres as well and it is not exclusive to MK9.

 

[Maxter]

Damn, man. You guys are really leveling up over there. Now Jax is a threat again, too? Oh, well. My kabody is ready. I had no idea some character could activate the glitch during mid-fight, this makes things very interesting. What if a player uses it himself to counter another player who activated it via round win? The possibilities and mindgames are endless. We definitely need to explore this game at this level next time I come over for games.

maaaannn, That could be a fantastic counter for people who activates on round win =) one of the players will have to deactivate to be able to attack while the other is still invincible or maybe both players should wait the computer to decide who wins the round after time runs out since there is no draw, or maybe just deactivate and activate invincibility right after you open your defense to bait an attack from the other player after he deactivates his invincibility ability and you activate yours before he hits you? your are goddamn right mindgames, gimmicks possibilities are unlimited thanks to this, wow man these techs are really opening more doors for this game to develop at higher level of game play and techniques that will make the game look more competitive for the open minded players, once these tech are adopted on tournaments and everyone learn how they work out they will see these are not really glitches but just a defense mechanism built in the game, mmaaannn you are so right when you started this thread, i wish i would have known about it earlier and help you enlighten those who are lost in our community, man you have been through a lot, you are really strong, i wouldnt be able to bear with all this burden trying to instruct the low minded, they don't even show the least bit of gratitude, Man also after getting a surgery done to your cheek bones this week? wtf has this community become, are we really that evil, don't we have the minimum sense of appreciation to Reo and to what he's done for all us us? you should all thank Reo takes his time to educate you all on how to become better and more productive on this game on a competitive level, Reo has been on pain all day trying to reason with all you unreasonable devils, how can you talk negatively about these new tech? this is the future, you will all thanks Reo one day after you see how these techs take this game to a different dimension of competitiom

 

[Simon Wayne]

I think Reo should have just keep this on the down low and then busted it out in the finals or something at Dallas or whatever. Would have been awesome to see the reactions from everyone.

 

[Maxter]

I think Reo should have just keep this on the down low and then busted it out in the finals or something at Dallas or whatever. Would have been awesome to see the reactions from everyone.

That why the community should be grateful that reo don't keep high techs like this for himself, at least people are more prepared for when these things are implemented in tournaments

 

[CptXecution]

There are Kabal players that make plenty of excuses all the time, I'm just not one of them. Find me any matches where I've lost with Mileena, Kenshi, Cyber Sub-Zero, Johnny Cage, Quan Chi, Kung Lao, etc. and then went on to make an excuse as to why I lost. The fact that we're even having this discussion right now just shows how desperate people are in trying to make me look bad.

You forgot Reptile.

 

[BillStickers]

So let me get this straight: the MK community so far has been OK with:

• Cyrax 100+% combos
• Smoke invincibility glitch
• Quan Chi 100% damage
• Skarlet 50% chip damage
• Jax 120% corner combo
• Shang Tsung soul steal glitch
• Random frame advantage
• Variable stage sizes
• Player 1 advantage (with no forced side-switching in tournaments)
• Variable stage lag
• Variable/Inconsistent frame data
• 3D hitbox bugs (see Nightwolf-Mileena matchup)
• input bug

and now suddenly everyone's jimmies are rustled over a situational invincibility glitch? I think people are overreacting, honestly. YES, it changes the nature of the game, but no, it's not an automatic win for the player to use the glitch.
REO -- looking forward to your matchup chart for the 'Real' Kabal. I tried to do some preliminary work on it, but the interesting thing about this glitch is that it's tough to gauge its effect on the match, since some characters can't attack while invincible. Bringing the game down to the wire can be just as risky for the player with invincibility.

 

[B W1zZ]

Before reading, please read: This is a thread for serious discussion on the topic of competitive Mortal Kombat with no rules binded to in-game characters (specifically Kabal). Blatantly off-topic posts will be deleted without warning. This thread serves for a legitimate debate and insults or personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.​

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Due to a new ruling being opposed onto Kabal, the character is now split into two different versions of characters. Below are the two Kabals:

CR-Kabal - Community restricted Kabal. As in this form of Kabal that cannot be played at it's true maximum potential and is limited to be made more fair.
MK9-Kabal - This is the true Kabal where all his in-game tools are accessible and allowed.


This is huge, as now I will have to re-write match-up charts and general strategy guides for these two characters separately. The differences are very serious and have impact in many ways. For example, a typical match-up for CR-Kabal against Sektor would be 6-4 in favor of CR-Kabal. However, MK9-Kabal vs Sektor would be drastically different at 9-1 in favor of MK9-Kabal.

Discuss.

lol if you make a thread about kabal not being played to his "true maximum potential" I should make one about Raiden too since he can do the same bullshit glitch, and we all know its bullshit.

 

[Matador Fiend]

I think Reo should have just keep this on the down low and then busted it out in the finals or something at Dallas or whatever. Would have been awesome to see the reactions from everyone.

Yeah I liked how you tried this on me yesterday. You are a true Ka-buwl pro!