Clash puts you back at mid screen...What a pain

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

The worst part about playing a character like Grundy (Or other grapplers or rushdown characters) is that once you get someone to the corner, they can clash and go strait back to mid screen or more if they win.

As Grundy I may end up spending the whole match trying to corner someone only to have them clash. It is by far the most irritating thing to e in this game. If this didn't happen, Grundy would SHOOT up the tier list. Its honestly a very big problem.

If I alter my combos to just get a grab and avoid clash, I am sacrificing half or more of my damage. Not to mention that it may take half or more of my life just to get them to the corner. I'll walking corps all interactibles just to not move backwards and a possibility to punish them. that way I can keep them in the corner safely and win the match. BUT DAT CLASH

Pig Of The Hut can attest to this.

 

[RebelzPlague]

I feel ya. As a fellow Grundy Main, this is irritating. The only hope to counter this is to save a bar, ex. swamp hands, hope they don't block it, then dash in and try to put them in the corner again.

 

[ShadowBeatz]

Preach it brother. Preach it.

What's better is you get pushed fullscreen from each other too. Grundy want to drown NRS in swamp

 

[ApertureBlack]

Sinestro feels your pain.

 

[Asodimazze]

I feel ya. As a fellow Grundy Main, this is irritating. The only hope to counter this is to save a bar, ex. swamp hands, hope they don't block it, then dash in and try to put them in the corner again.

No need to block, any invincible wake up attack avoids MB Swamp Hands too and maybe the opponent can also jump before SH hits him (not sure about that).

 

[RebelzPlague]

No need to block, any invincible wake up attack avoids MB Swamp Hands too and maybe the opponent can also jump before SH hits him (not sure about that).

Well, if you're trying to save a bar from the clash, odds are your going to lose it. That leaves you either on the floor from losing or neutral from being tied. So that's why you must pray that they don't block it.

 

[AU_SUCK]

Not only is that a pain, but also when you're playing with a character like Wonder Woman or Nightwing and your fighting in your trait stance, the clash automatically puts you back in your normal stance. I noticed that happened to Reo in winners finals at the very end of a match and he lost.

 

[cpmd4]

Not only is that a pain, but also when you're playing with a character like Wonder Woman or Nightwing and your fighting in your trait stance, the clash automatically puts you back in your normal stance. I noticed that happened to Reo in winners finals at the very end of a match and he lost.

This happens after super as well, however, it puts them in their second stance. Though I guess clashes aren't always controllable by you like the super.

 

[AU_SUCK]

This happens after super as well, however, it puts them in their second stance. Though I guess clashes aren't always controllable by you like the super.

I main WW and I don't think a super has ever forced me into sword stance...

 

[cpmd4]

I main WW and I don't think a super has ever forced me into sword stance...

Oh? I know it does for Nightwing. I guess I assumed since the final hit of her super is with the sword that it was the same for WW.

 

[AU_SUCK]

Nope, I actually don't know for sure but I'm pretty sure if I do it in sword I stay in sword, same with lasso.

 

[TarkatanDentist]

You can always not do any combos. Then you won't have to worry about clashes at all.

Edit: Wonder Woman's super never transfers you from Lasso to Sword stance, and I'm 90% sure it auto-transfers you from sword to lasso every time.

 

[MashPotatoTower]

Buff clash

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I always thought clashes were stupid and too cinematic. The concept is good, but it's flawed and favors zoners. This game in it's entirety favors zoners. Grundy is too unique a character in fighting game history to be bottom tier in a game where a piece of every match is always in your opponents favor.

Grundy has the potential to body people but only if he gets in. This game is lots of fun, but it's development inadvertently will always favor zoners and make characters like Grundy (regardless of tools) lower tier.

 

[RYX]

Bane cries every time you clash his corner pressure.

#TearsOfVenom

 

[RYX]

I always thought clashes were stupid and too cinematic. The concept is good, but it's flawed and favors zoners. This game in it's entirety favors zoners. Grundy is too unique a character in fighting game history to be bottom tier in a game where a piece of every match is always in your opponents favor.

Grundy has the potential to body people but only if he gets in. This game is lots of fun, but it's development inadvertently will always favor zoners and make characters like Grundy (regardless of tools) lower tier.

Grundy low tier,

Lul

 

[Qwark28]

I always thought clashes were stupid and too cinematic. The concept is good, but it's flawed and favors zoners. This game in it's entirety favors zoners. Grundy is too unique a character in fighting game history to be bottom tier in a game where a piece of every match is always in your opponents favor.

Grundy has the potential to body people but only if he gets in. This game is lots of fun, but it's development inadvertently will always favor zoners and make characters like Grundy (regardless of tools) lower tier.

grundy will never be low tier.

 

[Tom Brady]

Ship It

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Black Adam feels your pain...

Oh wait, no he doesn't.

I lose clash on purpose just to get rid of opponent's meter and get back to full screen with full meter. Then I just throw 5x MB bolts for 19% damage + 22% chip. GGs sucker.

 

[TakeAChance]

Is 3 hits of armor and a wave dash not enough to get to someone?

 

[xWEBSx]

I view this as a strategy to get certain characters off your ass as well.. Coin has 2 sides

 

[Krayzie]

For some reason people don't clash my combos.

Oh wait, that's right. I main Catwoman.

 

[gdf]

I respectfully disagree, it gives zoners breathing room. And I greatly enjoy initiating a clash so that some characters will get off of me, even if I tie in the clash I still win.
And to be completely honest the game prefers zoners now, similarly to the early life of MK9.

 

[Ratchet-Fabulous]

Oh? I know it does for Nightwing. I guess I assumed since the final hit of her super is with the sword that it was the same for WW.

It'll force you into Lasso Stance no matter what stance you were in previously.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Is 3 hits of armor and a wave dash not enough to get to someone?

you act like he takes no damage with the armor hits.....
doesn't last forever