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SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
Walter isn't even a bad guy.. more like an antihero. He obviously has his heart in the right place, but is willing to let his goal justify almost any mean. He has a code that he follows, but outside of it, anything goes.
 

jaym7018

Warrior
Walter isn't even a bad guy.. more like an antihero. He obviously has his heart in the right place, but is willing to let his goal justify almost any mean. He has a code that he follows, but outside of it, anything goes.
He is so far from anti hero its hilarious. He is evil , to argue otherwise is foolish. Im sure a ton of the worlds evil people love their families to.
 

SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
He is so far from anti hero its hilarious. He is evil , to argue otherwise is foolish. Im sure a ton of the worlds evil people love their families to.
I think it is debatable at this point. He has done evil actions to aid himself (Not because of pleasure, which I would say is true evil), but he seems to be more Walter White now, than Heisenberg (Even though he sent Jesse to the wolfs). It's definitely debatable weather he is evil or not though.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Thats not the question you need to ask.The question you need to ask is would Walt go around killing innocent people if it served his purpose. The answer to that is absolutely.
Well if that were true he would have killed hank and marie since they found out about him, but he didn't. And even in the end he was ready to go to jail just to save hank's life, so no it's not absolutely.
 

jaym7018

Warrior
I think it is debatable at this point. He has done evil actions to aid himself (Not because of pleasure, which I would say is true evil), but he seems to be more Walter White now, than Heisenberg (Even though he sent Jesse to the wolfs). It's definitely debatable weather he is evil or not though.
Thats not what evil is at all. And its not debatable. A man who poisons a child in order to manipulate another person to bend to your will is evil, there is no debate. It doesnt matter if the poison was lethal or not.
 

SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
Thats not what evil is at all. And its not debatable. A man who poisons a child in order to manipulate another person to bend to your will is evil, there is no debate. It doesnt matter if the poison was lethal or not.
And yet here we are.. debating it.. (Other people disagree with you too) so your argument really doesn't hold up. You can say that it's foolish to have a different opinion than yours.. but that would be foolish.
 

jaym7018

Warrior
Well if that were true he would have killed hank and marie since they found out about him, but he didn't. And even in the end he was ready to go to jail just to save hank's life, so no it's not absolutely.
We are going in circles now. I already said tons of evil people love their families. Lets say Gomez was the obsessed one and Hank was just a minor character. Would Walt kill him if it served his purpose, yes he would.
 

jaym7018

Warrior
And yet here we are.. debating it.. (Other people disagree with you too) so your argument really doesn't hold up. You can say that it's foolish to have a different opinion than yours.. but that would be foolish.
The people who disagree are the simpletons who even the creator of the show thinks are dumb.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
We are going in circles now. I already said tons of evil people love their families. Lets say Gomez was the obsessed one and Hank was just a minor character. Would Walt kill him if it served his purpose, yes he would.
But the facts are facts, which is he hasn't killed anyone that is innocent at this point. To say that he would undoubtedly is just hypothetical.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Thats not what evil is at all. And its not debatable. A man who poisons a child in order to manipulate another person to bend to your will is evil, there is no debate. It doesnt matter if the poison was lethal or not.
funny how you always forget to mention the part where Gus threatened to kill his entire family and him.
 

jaym7018

Warrior
funny how you always forget to mention the part where Gus threatened to kill his entire family and him.
Gus is evil to, whats your point? I mean seriously you are trying to justify the poisoning of an innocent child. Walt emulated Gus to the letter and aspired to be him anything gus was capable of Walt was to.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Please do not call other people simpletons when you yourself have been arguing with people on the last 2 pages with posts based on your complete lack of understanding of a key part in the last episode.
I don't have a problem with his posts other than he comes off as his opinion is right and everyone else is wrong.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Gus is evil to, whats your point? I mean seriously you are trying to justify the poisoning of an innocent child. Walt emulated Gus to the letter and aspired to be him anything gus was capable of Walt was to.
again i've explained this so many times in detail i don't think you even read my posts lol.
 

SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
I don't have a problem with his posts other than he comes off as his opinion is right and everyone else is wrong.
I am talking about how he made claims that the phone call Walter made to skyler was a product of panic and anger, and had nothing to do with Walter trying to help Skyler.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
But i view things the way the creator of the show intends them to be viewed. Theres something to say for that.
not really, that's just you saying you think like VG. Everyone can have their own interpretation of a character and his choices.
 

The Borax Kid

Apprentice
I personally hate it when creators try and impose their own views of their show on the fans. They are often too biased themselves to see it for what it is. The fact is we all watched the same material and came to our own views, we don't need Gilligan interpreting it for us.

I have never seen Walt as evil, which to me requires doing things which Walt won't. He's just become one of the monsters that he fought against since late Season 4 and now continuing in 5. Monsterous people don't have to be evil, and I think the brillance of the show is that Walt always walks that fine line.