Strategy - Sub-Zero B2 into B12

[One Inch Punch]

hello sub fellas, since the last big patch , I found a issue. Connecting b2 into rc b12 is impossible, I can only connect with a cross jip 2.
since GM lacks good damage, and f42 into ex ice ball sometimes doesn't let the opponent in the certain height for a njp. stealth nerf?

 

[boba_buster]

It's not a stealth nerf
That's from when they nerfed run cancels

 

[Braindead]

Yeah it just got fucked when they messed with the run cancels in the last patch.


Also LOL at GM lacking good damage.

 

[One Inch Punch]

Yeah it just got fucked when they messed with the run cancels in the last patch.


Also LOL at GM lacking good damage.

midscreen , I mean.

 

[Braindead]

midscreen , I mean.

Midscreen your whole gameplan should be carrying them to the corner, so the damage doesn't really matter.

 

[One Inch Punch]

Midscreen your whole gameplan should be carrying them to the corner, so the damage doesn't really matter.

ok, ok I know, but the damage was reduced with this.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Even before the September patch, it was unreliable.

 

[One Inch Punch]

before that patch, I always connected the string. after, only with cross jip 2.

 

[RM Ree]

Even so, his (jip), b12 xx ex clone b12 xx ice ball route can do up to 37% for a bar, midscreen. Pretty easy to do as well. It's just... Stance specific and all. I hope they fix this.

On the topic of b2 > b12, taller characters are still susceptible to this (Kotal, Ermac, Goro, F/T... Raiden?).

 

[One Inch Punch]

Even so, his (jip), b12 xx ex clone b12 xx ice ball route can do up to 37% for a bar, midscreen. Pretty easy to do as well. It's just... Stance specific and all. I hope they fix this.

On the topic of b2 > b12, taller characters are still susceptible to this (Kotal, Ermac, Goro, F/T... Raiden?).

yeah pretty damage. 37%. but, a combo only working with a cross jump-in isn't that good.
don't know if taller characters allow the combo. just tested in sub, but always facing a ermac fella, and I couldn't connect none of these without cross jip.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Even before the September patch, it was unreliable.

I didn't play sub that much but it took a little practice to get it down but then i was able to do it.Now it's hard as hell.

 

[RM Ree]

yeah pretty damage. 37%. but, a combo only working with a cross jump-in isn't that good.
don't know if taller characters allow the combo. just tested in sub, but always facing a ermac fella, and I couldn't connect none of these without cross jip.

Feels pretty good when you deal ~50% whiff punishing a soul ball or a teleport. But I get it, it is unreliable.

 

[DarksydeDash]

F42 is your best friend

 

[EMPEROR_KNICKS]

hello sub fellas, since the last big patch , I found a issue. Connecting b2 into rc b12 is impossible, I can only connect with a cross jip 2.
since GM lacks good damage, and f42 into ex ice ball sometimes doesn't let the opponent in the certain height for a njp. stealth nerf?

Did you just say sub lacks damage omfg are you fucking kidding me. in the corner he get like 36-46 into a setup.

 

[Lokheit]

Yup, since they messed with runs B12 can only be connected after a JIP 2, B2 or point blank (touching faces) B2. At least 242 into B12 deals the same damage (in fact slightly more as decimals count) so GM can go for the easy one after Iceballs.

Unbreakable on the other hand deals more damage with the B2 because it has better damage scale than 242 and UB burst is more damaging with the aura, so for most damaging combos you need to use the hard ones (on top of being a crappy variation at this point).