Breakthrough - Hellfire B1 FBC allows a true combo on hit from a dash without running.

[STRYKIE]

As always, apologies if already known.

Notice my stamina and my inputs and you'll notice I didn't run once during this conversion.

May seem trivial on paper, but I believe this has some uses.

1) B1 has a tad more range than standing 1 or standing 2 and is able to punish a few things that they won't.

2) Given that B1 hits mid, it's a good option to check someone attempting to counterpoke with after a 214 FB dash cancel on block, especially if you're low enough on stamina that you can only dash cancel anyway.

3) May slightly optimize a post-flame aura link, (not sure however, since as you can see, the demonstrated link scales more than the 214 BNB by itself) and since stamina recovers faster from a dash cancel, it won't cut into your subsequent reps of blockstring pressure.



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[Braindead]

Scheisse.

 

[JTB123]

Nice find. If you catch someone with this with FU already active then with the standard EX tele combo you will gurantee another FU afterwards as well. Otherwise I think you're better off with B12 aura as your starter.

 

[Triplswing]

Cool tech, not too sure how practical it is though.

1). Maybe

2). Maybe

3). I doubt it.

I don't get a tag? Fine I see how it is :16Bit

 

[STRYKIE]

Cool tech, not too sure how practical it is though.

1). Maybe

2). Maybe

3). I doubt it.

I don't get a tag? Fine I see how it is :16Bit

I knew I forgot someone... #FailFish

Alas, I'm not as familiar with the Scorp community as Strykie is.

 

[Eddy Wang]

The link is incredibly thigh even on stick, but i think run canceling is incredibly doable.

 

[Scoot Magee]

Is b1 fbc advantage on block? It's listed as + 3 on rc but dash cancel may be negative.

 

[STRYKIE]

Is b1 fbc advantage on block? It's listed as + 3 on rc but dash cancel may be negative.

If you just do dash cancel then yeah it's negative on block.

The link is incredibly thigh even on stick, but i think run canceling is incredibly doable.

For the record, I definitely recommend doing a standing 1 follow-up instead in a real match.

 

[AK Harold]

Yeah, could be useful option after 214 dash cancel. Since the B1 would beat most unarmored hits and would be possible to combo with less stamina. I would probably do 114 as well for consistency.

 

[Ares_Supreme]

Quit finding all of the cool stuff before me! -.-

 

[InFlames]

With all that advantage can you jump in after a b1 run cancel and continue the combo?

 

[Triplswing]

With all that advantage can you jump in after a b1 run cancel and continue the combo?

Not sure, but you can do 21FBC, fjkxxTP, FA, f3xxSpear...ect.

 

[STRYKIE]

Yeah, could be useful option after 214 dash cancel. Since the B1 would beat most unarmored hits and would be possible to combo with less stamina. I would probably do 114 as well for consistency.

For sure. 114/123 definitely feel more consistent despite only being 1 frame faster. I just stuck with 214 in the video demonstration for swag points.

With all that advantage can you jump in after a b1 run cancel and continue the combo?

Possibly. Is there a rough idea on how long it takes for a crossover jump punch to connect done from point blank? Slowest thing I've been able to link from B1 FBRC is the 25 frame F4 overhead.

 

[Triplswing]

You can do b1 FBDC f3

 

[AK Harold]

Side note, could we just call all run cancels RC and all dash cancels DC? It's not like we would be confused on what move to use per character. Would simplify notations.