Are players forced to respect Sonya's jump in?

[Vagrant]

The title pretty much sums it up. This is a question more for people who are fighting against sonya. I don't jump in that much with her but I like to find out as much about the psychological process of people playing against my char.

Do you refrain from ainti airing her for fear of eating a divekick for 40% or do you go for the AA?
Obviously certain armored AA's will also beat out divekick but I ask this question in a more general sense.

 

[YOMI DJT]

yes she gets free jumps because that divekick is scary.

 

[smokey]

I use EX Smoke bomb as an anti-air vs sonya because it trades with divekick and standing 2 sometimes loses....basically yes.

 

[Smarrgasm]

At certain ranges it is incredibly hard to AA the divekick so yes sometimes you have to respect her jump ins. However divekick is full punishable on block and can also be spaced out and whiff punished. Its a thing that comes with playing against the brokeness that is sonya and her divekick.

 

[RiBBz22]

I play Sonya and Smoke and when I play against a Sonya I feel like any dive kick that is not an instant dive kick is extremely risky. When I play as Sonya I try to just use the dive kick more conservatively since everything else she does is extremely safe I don't see that much reward there.

Basically, I use the DK mostly to punish counter pokes, and if I want to try to throw one out it will always be an instant DK instead of a high jump where I could cancel into DK or just go for the regular jump in.

 

[xKhaoTik]

When I'm kitana, I don't fear her jumpins at all. Ex fan lift beats whatever she does.

When I'm Sonya, I've been hit out of divekick by Smoke's 2, so I don't think he has to fear it.

Anyone with armor shouldn't fear her jump in.

 

[Vagrant]

Anyone with armor shouldn't fear her jump in.

Hundreds of whiffed ex spears would like a word with you. =)

 

[Vagrant]

Good points from all. I think this mind game is much more character dependant. There are some chars that don't have to worry about it at all. ie. Kit

 

[smokey]

When I'm kitana, I don't fear her jumpins at all. Ex fan lift beats whatever she does.

When I'm Sonya, I've been hit out of divekick by Smoke's 2, so I don't think he has to fear it.

Anyone with armor shouldn't fear her jump in.

Its no spin/armour but standing 2 can anti air, its not a risk worth 40%+MS reset though, sonya is one of few characters where jumping at you is a mindgame.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Depends on how good your spacing is or what your AA move is.
If you let the divekick whiff she gets massacred on the punish, if you have a special move AA, she cant jump.

 

[BillStickers]

When I'm kitana, I don't fear her jumpins at all. Ex fan lift beats whatever she does.

When I'm Sonya, I've been hit out of divekick by Smoke's 2, so I don't think he has to fear it.

Anyone with armor shouldn't fear her jump in.

Unless she's P1... Nothing more depressing than seeing the EX lift animation start and then suddenly you're balls deep in a 40% combo ;_;

 

[TotteryManx]

I noticed this earlier actually. I was watching old matches and no one was attempting to AA her jump ins. If you're low on meter she can jump all she wants, unless your spacing is really good at the moment.

 

[trustinme]

nah.sonya's free as fuck,cmon guys

 

[4x4lo8o]

I've gotten to the point where I'm just going to use armor every time she jumps in. She gets too much off of a successful jump in, whether it's just a blocked jip or landing a jip or divekick. Spending a bar of meter to get 30% and encourage her to stay on the ground is worth it

 

[STRYKIE]

Unless you're on chip damage I don't see why more people don't just let the Sonya player commit to their jump in, if you read and block the divekick you'll punish her for more than you would have AAing it.

(unless you're Jax or Scorpion which is a much bigger reason why those matchups are good for her than most foresee )

 

[Vagrant]

Unless you're on chip damage I don't see why more people don't just let the Sonya player commit to their jump in,

Because then she gets a free ms mix up off of jump in blockstring. Thats the trade off

 

[STRYKIE]

Because then she gets a free ms mix up off of jump in blockstring. Thats the trade off

I know, but what if she just divekicks instead, it's a 50/50 within itself

 

[Vagrant]

I know, but what if she just divekicks instead, it's a 50/50 within itself

...and here I thought I had escaped them.......

 

[RiBBz22]

When I'm kitana, I don't fear her jumpins at all. Ex fan lift beats whatever she does.

When I'm Sonya, I've been hit out of divekick by Smoke's 2, so I don't think he has to fear it.

Anyone with armor shouldn't fear her jump in.

He has to fear it, lmao. But ya standing 2 can beat it but it is SOOO dicey.

 

[bipolar_shango]

Neutral jump punch brah.. Worst case scenario you eat an airborne divekick.. Unless the Sonya player anticipates that and attempts an air to air combo

 

[Vagrant]

Can you njp a jump in on reaction? That seems a bit situational

 

[McNasty]

Respect everything she does while she shows none and pray for a bad dive kick. Thats sonya in a nutshell.

 

[MashPotatoTower]

D1 and d2 blows up dive kick. Pass it on
Making Sonya scared to dive kick is essential to beating the MU

 

[MashPotatoTower]

Get used to back dashing away from her jump range. It's easy to whiff punish a whiffed dive kick

 

[Squeaker101]

If she's gonna jump in at all, why not jump? If she goes for JIP you'll be airborne, and it's the same way with the divekick.

Really though, why not? I'm genuinely curious.