Anyone think they should have added different stamina ratings for the cast?

[Garr123]

The only exceptions to this are characters who can pretty much play more or less the same in every matchup (and there are usually a couple of those in games like this). But while stamina works well in a game like SF, I'm curious to know how it would affect the matchups in IGAU.

Almost every character in this game does two or three things. That's it. I'm not sure where the idea that Injustice characters play wildly different in different matchups is coming from, considering their simplicity has been derided repeatedly on the weekly streams since the game came out. Majority of normals are kind of garbage outside of combos, and a fair amount of specials, so well okay.

I'd direct you to KeyserSoze's post earlier in the thread, as he basically surmised what I'd reply.

Like I said people can't differentiate between "overpowered" and "badly designed" anyway.

So, basically you just don't like characters with high skill ceilings? You're complaining about a character that is incredibly risky, but rewards skilled play.

I don't seem to be the one confused here.

You didn't really address any of my points, and I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was repeating what you said. You're still spouting nonsense, though. Skilled players choosing a character and winning is pretty much the only metric to judge balance. Haitani used Makoto the last two EVOs and showed what she is capable of when played at a high level by someone putting a lot of work in, he's not choosing the character for shits and giggles, dude. You got Vangief and Snake Eyez showing what Zangief is capable of, but by your metric it doesn't matter because they're specialists? And we should go by what? Online slobs and mediocre players? Or something?

Which others were counter picks? Most of the players in the top 20 used only one character, the exception being Infiltration's Hakan. You are talking out of your ass.

As far as what you consider balance: What if one player has incredible execution, and the other has somewhat lacking execution, but is very good at reads and zoning? Should they have the same chance of winning with any given character? Should characters not play to different strengths? Fighting games are by their nature asymmetrical, bro.

In a perfectly balanced game, each player matchup would literally be a 5-5 matchup regardless of taking player skill into account.

This doesn't make any sense. Basically you're asking for one character Divekick.



I feel like I shouldn't have mentioned street fighter, because it just released a torrent of flailingly defensive butthurt. Most replied are "It won't work because it won't work" which then transitions into complaining about SF because circular reasoning has nowhere to go.

 

[KeyserSoze]

The problem though, is that stamina has no conception of matchups. So while a character having low stamina may make one matchup more balanced, it could completely destroy another matchup. It's easier to get around this when your characters have more universal archetypes and toolsets; but if you have a cast of wildly divergent characters, you could end up just shifting the good/bad matchups around rather than actually further balancing the game overall.

The only exceptions to this are characters who can pretty much play more or less the same in every matchup (and there are usually a couple of those in games like this). But while stamina works well in a game like SF, I'm curious to know how it would affect the matchups in IGAU.

In thinking about it further, I very much agree with the bolded. One inherent problem with my character specific stamina proposal is that bad match-ups transcend tier lists. It's a really interesting debate, but unfortunately, I think there are muddy waters on both sides of the fence. Luckily, I still find Injustice to be mostly balanced, and unquestionably, very fun to play

 

[PJbottoms]

Another wall of text

Only person sounding butthurt here is you because we're not agreeing with your opinion.


I'm speaking in generalities and you're just nitpicking and using technicalities to sound like you're right.

I'm not going to sit here and make my own wall of text to appease you which will just be met by more poor reading comprehension and arguments for arguments sake which is what you're doing at this point, again because we aren't agreeing with you.

Good day sir.