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JavierDavila said:
How do you guys punish Black Adam's dive kick ?
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Depends on both where it hits you and the player you're agaisnt

If it isnt low enough i try to check them with b12 and 1 of 3 things will happen

1. B12 hits and i hit confirm into db2

2. B12 is blocked and i cancel into trident rush

3. My b12 wiffs bc it was either to low and or my reaction was to slow and the BA player back dashed

If you know the BA player goes for a back dash regularly after a blocked dive kick punish him with FTD and get yourself a full combo if you have the meter (which you normaly will)

Once they respect my FTD i start checking with b12 again
 
HGTV Soapboxfan

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
Trekiros said:
How exactly am I supposed to fight flash ?
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First things first, trait out of his 50 50 on hit. otherwise... Do not trident rush on block. If you need to pressure stagger the b123 string at its max range. Otherwise just play footsies, get your health lead and run away. It is a fairly simple matchup. What specific problems are you having?
 
Trekiros

Trekiros

Probably a lunatic
Hmm, I don't know, he just rolls all over me. I can keep him out for like, ten seconds, then he gets a hit in, and he just gets in my face, counters my wakeup, repeat till dead.

I come from a much more campy game than Injustice, so I'm just not used to rushdown matchups. Is there any must watch video ?
 
HGTV Soapboxfan

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
Trekiros said:
Hmm, I don't know, he just rolls all over me. I can keep him out for like, ten seconds, then he gets a hit in, and he just gets in my face, counters my wakeup, repeat till dead.

I come from a much more campy game than Injustice, so I'm just not used to rushdown matchups. Is there any must watch video ?
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Okay I have a couple videos on my youtube of me fighting my friend DrFlash44's flash, although he isn't the best player tbh (He misses a LOT of punishes). here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/user/Soapboxfanmk9

Just general things to remember:
Pushblock is your friend

If you have trait, don't worry about getting out of his 50 50s too much. If you guess wrong, just trait out. Flash has to work overtime to get damage in this matchup.

His AA is kind of iffy, so don't be afraid to abuse j13

Don't worry about checking him with FTD too much. Just walk back and abuse b1.

A personal thing I have been doing lately is using 3 to get him off of me. It is plus4 on block and gives you tons of space to get away. Use it after you tag him with a d1 or catch him off guard with a stagger.
 
TimTim

TimTim

Don't Hate
HGTV Soapboxfan said:
I don't think he loses any matches personally. Maybe KF but I don't think so.
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Oh man I've settled on GA and this matchup is a nightmare. Can't do good super resets that require me to hit. Can only load on knockdowns and before he can wake up. Can't abuse j.3. Maybe I'm missing something?
 
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HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
TimTim said:
Oh man I've settled on GA and this matchup is a nightmare. Can't do good super resets that require me to hit. Can only load on knockdowns and before he can wake up. Can't abuse j.3. Maybe I'm missing something?
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It's a pretty footsies based match, and green arrow has to work for damage or anything. I'd say aquaman favor, Idk how much though. Either 6 4 or 7 3
 
Trip Se7ens

Trip Se7ens

Nom Nom
dabuz said:
Possibly BA IMO. That MU is a pain because Aquaman can't really approach a BA who wants to dash back a lot and throw projectiles, nor can AM come near to outzoning a good BA.
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I have a lot of trouble with Grundy, sinestro, dooms, supes, bat, and KF.
 
Kaernak

Kaernak

Noob
Sinestro I haven't had any issues against. You have to weather that initial storm, block smart once you are in and don't give them an inch. A lot of b1,2 water shield is used for me. Sticking them in a corner and water shielding any possible wake up rocks helps. Superman is similar if they are eye spamming. IF they aren't just use your superior pokes to get in on them and tear them apart. Batman.....i just cant handle that j.2 . I feel like it hits on both sides at all times. I've tried blocking what i perceive as the correct way and got hit. Tried blocking what I thought was incorrect and got hit. I mean ...i know how ambiguous cross ups work....but his is ridiculous. Also....i can't tech ANYTHING in any match up. That may just be me needing to get in training though.
 
DanableLector

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
Black Adam, Green Lantern, and killer frost.. Those match ups have been particularly tough. I think he does pretty well against Superman. I also find good death strokes and Ravens annoying.
 
HGTV Soapboxfan

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
i play the black adam matchup offline all the time, my sparring partner that lives 5 minutes away OZZYGUITAR plays him. What issues have you guys had? Aquaman has pretty much the best tool in the game to stop back dashing.... FTD.
 
dabuz

dabuz

Noob
HGTV Soapboxfan said:
i play the black adam matchup offline all the time, my sparring partner that lives 5 minutes away OZZYGUITAR plays him. What issues have you guys had? Aquaman has pretty much the best tool in the game to stop back dashing.... FTD.
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I find myself unable to get close enough to do my strings and I get extremely out chipped if I try to outzone him with FTD. Reading his BD with FTD is iffy because he can read that and get a 45% combo punish.

Trip Se7ens said:
I have a lot of trouble with Grundy, sinestro, dooms, supes, bat, and KF.
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I feel really comfortable in the Superman, Batman, and Grundy MUs. What's giving you problems?
 
DanableLector

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
HGTV Soapboxfan said:
i play the black adam matchup offline all the time, my sparring partner that lives 5 minutes away OZZYGUITAR plays him. What issues have you guys had? Aquaman has pretty much the best tool in the game to stop back dashing.... FTD.
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i have the same issues with BA as Dabuz. Every good BA is different and after I adjust, I can get somr wins, but it takes a few losses to get to that point. Deathstroke has been my problem lately. Its just annoying getting in. Any tactics you guys have found that destroy deathstroke?
 
OZZYGUITAR

OZZYGUITAR

Back-dash Adam
dabuz said:
I find myself unable to get close enough to do my strings and I get extremely out chipped if I try to outzone him with FTD. Reading his BD with FTD is iffy because he can read that and get a 45% combo punish.

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I find the matchup to be one of the most even that I've ever played, but i see where you are having issues, zoning wise adam has to use meter to out chip you, considering trident and lightning bolt do almost identical chip, and if he does a mb bolt and you read it, you can get very close, very fast, by simply jumping it (and personally i feel aquaman may have a slight edge while close up). Also, if you preemptively read a lightning bolt, its very possible to do a mb FTD combo and get some decent damage at fullscreen. Also, after certain combo enders (which i am not aware of the inputs), aquaman has his guaranteed, just frame trident, and if adam tries to backdash, he gets hit every time, even if your timing wasn't exactly on a specific frame. His only options in that situation are lightning cage or block, and if he lighting cages it leaves the situation almost neutral, although its possible to read and punish the cage by jumping in. And as far as ftd while reading backdash, it could be worth the risk since you can trait to avoid getting punished
 
Qwark28

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
BA wins over aquaman 6-4, outzones him, outdamages him and lots of new combos that ignore trait have been foudmn
 
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