"You're Fired!" -- Joker General Discussion Thread

[Wild Card]

The d2 is faster, you can anti air all attacks now, even Deathstroke jumping 3. You can combo now d2 into b3 with joker. This patch is amazing. Oh and the parry is reliable now.

Holy mother of chris geesus this man is right.

Also, Joker's d2 has so much range, it can even hit the opponent right at the beginning of the match if they choose to do anything other than back jump or
dashing away.

And again, D2-> B3? Thats crazy.

 

[Cat]

great cant wait to see what you find. you should keep the real dirt for evo tho or for PMs, but try and share as much general stuff if you can.

Joker = Best AA in the game....
ggs..

 

[Cat]

Let's be honest here, people who don't main Joker don't give a shit about what kind of tech is being found here.

"Oh boy, I better investigate that Joker tech before EVO or I'll get eliminated!" -Said no one ever.

Don't worry though, I'm just kidding around here. I understand the concept of "lets not take any chances".

LOL nah I was thinking the same thing. No one knows how to fight a competent Joker unless you have played Cat or Ren. Old man 'punish Batman's slide with d.1' Valle doesn't count.

Anyways, just saying, people might be more interested in him now the patch is up. You yourself should notice the influx of new posters and lurkers. If I were Cat or any other Evo player, I'd want no risk.

Yep it does. Timing is a bit strict but is doable. Other character that can do it are: Deathstroke, Flash, and Green lantern. Deathstroke timing is super easy, while joker timing is a bit difficult.

Only got like 10 minutes with and can't get back on until later tonight.

I will say, I feel like the horizontal hitbox is bigger.

But maybe I just don't remember because I rarely used the move outside of teeth stuff.

http://testyourmight.com/threads/1-05-joker-change-comparison.35076/

made a video with comparisons

 

[laudanum09]

great stuff....too bad we cant use this http://testyourmight.com/threads/splat-standing-reset-tech.31948/

Only way I got it to work was F3, D2 MB cancel into F3 in the corner and the timing is Just frame.

methinks unless you have a high low 50/50 game you can just block, but this is going to make chars like frost, batgirl and scorpion even better with more reset options.

Sad face.

 

[lorenzo]

It does work. You can do back 3 into f3. If you time it correctly you can get an ambiguous cross up, or you can make them stand up really fast.

 

[laudanum09]

It does work. You can do back 3 into f3. If you time it correctly you can get an ambiguous cross up, or you can make them stand up really fast.

damn my timing must be ass. I can't get them to stand reset midscreen with back3 and f3. It seems really hard.

 

[Wild Card]

Joker is no longer D tier he is now C-C+ tier

 

[Jarc]

Hahahahahahaha guys YOU CAN PARRY ZOD'S TRAIT

 

[laudanum09]

how does that even look? lol

 

[Jarc]

like teleportation

 

[MetaSkipper]

I hear you can parry Scorpion's trait too. Same with Grundy.

 

[Wild Card]

I hear you can parry Scorpion's trait too. Same with Grundy.

If you down parry with Joker at the right time, the trait grab from Grundy will completely whiff.

 

[lorenzo]

You can actually parry his trait grab with normal parry.

 

[laudanum09]

You can actually parry his trait grab with normal parry.

whuuuuuu cool

 

[Wild Card]

You can actually parry his trait grab with normal parry.

Which is AWESOME so now you dont really have to guess with his grab mixup.

If grundy tries a low, chances are you might parry him with a low parry. If he tries to grab you and you tried a low parry, nothing will happen

 

[MetaSkipper]

Might still get bopped with an overhead.

 

[Wild Card]

Nahhh come on now, most grundies wont do that, and besides if they tried you could see it coming.

Or you could parry it

 

[laudanum09]

theres a lot of stuff that B W1zZ can work on but his corner game is not one of them

2:26:55
http://www.twitch.tv/teamhazmat/b/425101093

 

[mistermoo]

How do you guys use his crowbar special?

 

[laudanum09]

you dont lol

it does lead to OTGs in the corner tho

 

[LOCO]

How do you guys use his crowbar special?

i use it for mix ups since its an oh
like b1 2 (i think dats it unless confusing with lobos)
b1 2 knockdown b1 2 knockdown then crowbar catching them blocking low
i also use it with teeth sometimes instead of the jump in

but yea its a mixup tool pretty much

 

[Dr Jackal]

theres a lot of stuff that B W1zZ can work on but his corner game is not one of them

2:26:55
http://www.twitch.tv/teamhazmat/b/425101093

laudanum09 Hi mate, excellent indeed, I use pretty much the same thing in the corner, I only add the d2-MBrolling gaz

 

[XxSYNDROISxX]

That's a video showing a few teeth resets that we all know can work from D2. I worked them so they're a bit easier without having to hit the 2 before the teeth explode. These resets do the exact same damage as the ones with a 2 before the flower acid.

First reset: J2, 32, MB RLG, B3, D2, Far teeth, acid flower, J2, 32, acid flower. The first part does 37% and the second does 30 for a total of 67% damage.

Second Reset: J2, 32, MB RLG, B3, D2, far teeth, acid flower, B3, J2, 32, acid flower. The first does 37 again, the second does 33 for a total of 70% damage.

Third Reset: J2, 32, MB RLG, B3, D2, Far Teeth, Acid flower, B3, J2, 32, crowbar. The first does 37 and the second 32 for 69% damage.

I also reworked one to end with the crowbar. The first can be seen in the video above. Here's one that meter burns the crowbar for more damage:

J2, 32, MB RLG, B3, D2, Far Teeth, Acid Flower, B3, J2, 32, MB Crowbar. First part does 37 and the second 35 for a total of 72% damage.

Again, these are just forms of the already known resets. I was having a hard time hitting the 2, acid flower before the teeth blew up so I just dropped the 2 and went into the acid flower. This is much easier in online play and does not sacrifice damage.

Everytime i try these i get a wake up special from flash,superman,Zod,and so on am i not dping the acid flower fast enough?

 

[Jarc]

After a little bit of testing it looks like d2 is 12 frames for those who are interested.

 

[B W1zZ]

Sometimes yoloing crowbar by itself leads to some free damage. Fuck it. Yolo that shit. You'd be surprised how often you can catch someone off guard with a naked crowbar.