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"Must I Remind You Of My Superiority" -- Lex Luthor General Discussion Thread

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MashBot

MashBot

You're over matched.
_CHINOCUDEIRO_ said:
Here´s my simple,stupid but very effective and practical setup:
To avoid pressure or to pressure itself,when you are close, do the D1 (7 frames), once or even twice and you will be at perfect range for the throw (Lex´s throw has a huge range), allways work:
-D1 is +11 on hit, throw has 10 startup, so it´s a frametrap.
-Then, do instant Ji3 and it will hit nearly meaty on most of people than touch buttons or don´t respect the jump.
-Cancel the Ji3 with a normal mine and it will be placed just behind the opp., so:
a)if he attack you with wake up attack, pushblock and eat the mine
b)if he backdash ,he eat the mine
c)if he just block do a Ji2 and on hit OR BLOCK he will be pushed to the mine and free damage combo for you

That´s so simple but you will be surprise how effective is...
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can you get a trait after throw? cause that seems like a nasty FT
fun fact yesterday i ran across 5 lexs online only one was kind of good is lex on the up come?
 
(AGE)NycFab

(AGE)NycFab

Noob
Trait after throw is not a good idea since the person will recover and be able to punish if the have a decent ranged move to catch you turning on trait even if you dash out. Also its not that easy to get a "free" mine per say in those instances. Example b and c do not give a free mine it just puts them in a trap, but not free. Example b depending on the backdash and how close or far they can just crouch it on there recovery or just jump back lol. Example c people can really just dash under you or anti air because for you to kind of set up a meaty unblock able you would have to do a very late timed ji2 if you don't have an orb set up for you to start that.
 
MashBot

MashBot

You're over matched.
(AGE)NycFab said:
Trait after throw is not a good idea since the person will recover and be able to punish if the have a decent ranged move to catch you turning on trait even if you dash out. Also its not that easy to get a "free" mine per say in those instances. Example b and c do not give a free mine it just puts them in a trap, but not free. Example b depending on the backdash and how close or far they can just crouch it on there recovery or just jump back lol. Example c people can really just dash under you or anti air because for you to kind of set up a meaty unblock able you would have to do a very late timed ji2 if you don't have an orb set up for you to start that.
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a pro has bless our forums with his presence.:eek: im taking notes as we speak from your BC19 matches
 
_CHINOCUDEIRO_

_CHINOCUDEIRO_

Machakabotones
(AGE)NycFab said:
Trait after throw is not a good idea since the person will recover and be able to punish if the have a decent ranged move to catch you turning on trait even if you dash out. Also its not that easy to get a "free" mine per say in those instances. Example b and c do not give a free mine it just puts them in a trap, but not free. Example b depending on the backdash and how close or far they can just crouch it on there recovery or just jump back lol. Example c people can really just dash under you or anti air because for you to kind of set up a meaty unblock able you would have to do a very late timed ji2 if you don't have an orb set up for you to start that.
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Yes, there´s no free mine, but ,as you say, is a situation that the opp. has to choose well and quick, but for sure he can´t backdash because after a knockdown and "meaty" Ji3 on hit,the normal mine cancelled places JUST behind him, so any backdash eats the mine.But,yes , he can dashforward (who do it as a defense option?,and also if attacks you can pushblock to the mine)and perhaps jumpback(I´ve not test it). But if he blocked the Ji2 after tthe mine,he will be pushed into the mine. For sure,not a free setup mine, but a throw is a very common situation for Lex´s offense and a "meaty" Ji3 afterwards is a good option,but,please tell me your option after the throw,for sure, it will be better than mine.
And what is your best option after a charge? THANKS
 
rev0lver

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
So I don't know if anyone else realized this, but if you mb b3/f3 with trait on you get 3 hits of armor. So it can beat out things like batgirl cartwheel, whatever those quick raven strings are, and things like that.
 
miloPKL

miloPKL

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rev0lver said:
So I don't know if anyone else realized this, but if you mb b3/f3 with trait on you get 3 hits of armor. So it can beat out things like batgirl cartwheel, whatever those quick raven strings are, and things like that.
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been using this, i love using armor attacks to initiate combos and apply pressure, the habit comes from FADC in sf for me.
 
miloPKL

miloPKL

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its always been classified mid but whiffs as if it were a high - another reason lex is dumb
 
_CHINOCUDEIRO_

_CHINOCUDEIRO_

Machakabotones
x5iVE_STAR said:
its always been classified mid but whiffs as if it were a high - another reason lex is dumb
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I have tested in training with the opp. "allways crouching" that if you do the D1 (+11 on hit) , and then you do the 1( 8 startup frames) it doesn´t combo BUT the D1 on hit leaves the opp. on a hitstun state high enough and 1,1,2 NOT WHIFFS .
It´s such a good frame trap to apply pressure,doesn´t it? ;)
 
LizardLard

LizardLard

Mortal
Quick Lex Tip: NEVER go for a raw f2 or b2 x MB Gravity Pull. The potential combo opportunity is just never worth the huge risk IMO. Instead, use b2u3, which can be hit confirmed into b2u3d3 on hit. b2u3 is safe on block. Use the knockdown from an f2 to setup a probe, mine, or armor.

EDIT: This includes after a d1 on hit
 
rev0lver

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
LizardLard said:
Quick Lex Tip: NEVER go for a raw f2 or b2 x MB Gravity Pull. The potential combo opportunity is just never worth the huge risk IMO. Instead, use b2u3, which can be hit confirmed into b2u3d3 on hit. b2u3 is safe on block. Use the knockdown from an f2 to setup a probe, mine, or armor.

EDIT: This includes after a d1 on hit
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I do f2~vacuum only off a really good read or catching them trying to poke my armor or something. But you can do f2 and CC if you see it hit. I think f2 is somewhat unsafe but not significantly so.
 
Wrenchfarm

Wrenchfarm

Lexcorp Proprietary Technologies
LizardLard said:
Quick Lex Tip: NEVER go for a raw f2 or b2 x MB Gravity Pull. The potential combo opportunity is just never worth the huge risk IMO. Instead, use b2u3, which can be hit confirmed into b2u3d3 on hit. b2u3 is safe on block. Use the knockdown from an f2 to setup a probe, mine, or armor.

EDIT: This includes after a d1 on hit
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I'm guilty of doing this. But sometimes you just have the read and KNOW the guy will be blocking low, might as well get top damage.

Also, as Revolver says, you can always make it safe and powerful with some trait.
 
_CHINOCUDEIRO_

_CHINOCUDEIRO_

Machakabotones
F2-GPMB is usefull when you first do the B3,ji3,22,close mine ender... people scares the mine and blocks low in front of you (well, they usually do a wake up attack instead :confused:)
 
Vogue

Vogue

Mortal
Yoooo LEX! This character is soo fun. I need to work on my traps and setups, but just trolling around with trait and his 3 buttons is awesome haha.
 
rev0lver

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I found a legit use for lance.

I'm going to wait a little though so I can laugh at everyone who said Lex is bad.
 
H

hunterm94

Noob
rev0lver said:
I found a legit use for lance.

I'm going to wait a little though so I can laugh at everyone who said Lex is bad.
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I'm guessing its different than using the lance to bait out a teleport then dash cannceling out of it? Would be nice to see new Lex tech being found out, especially for the lesser used moves
 
miloPKL

miloPKL

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rev0lver said:
Because I don't want to get people to think Lex is good before they can see it.
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just so everyone else knows, if i ever discover something with lex, i will always share immediately, instead of holding back info on the community like this. in before 'level up yourself blabla'

lance is trash but if you've found a legit use for it i look forward to your reveal.
 
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