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RDK Tyrant Wins I:GAU at Wednesday Night Fights 3.3

Krayzie

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Sorry Catwoman players. Ill do my best to bring her a victory next week.

I was too sick to compete. I swear im having a bad week... :(
 

Uotan

Unban Joker
The ending to Valle (Batman) vs Emperor Theo (Superman) was hella hype, same for Rip (Batman) vs Truth (Aquaman). WP all, nice to see more Batmen and Sinestros and even a Flash doing well.
 

CrimsonShadow

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Solomon Grundy is not an underdog character . People are foolish if they think mid tier is hard to win with in this game and Grundy is high. It would been an underdog if it was joker or lobo.
In a world of Supermans, Black Adams, Green Lanterns, Deathstrokes, and Killer Frosts Grundy is an underdog character at a tournament level. If you don't feel that way, you probably haven't played the good ones :)

'Tier' means little here; it's about the matchups.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
In a world of Supermans, Black Adams, Green Lanterns, Deathstrokes, and Killer Frosts Grundy is an underdog character at a tournament level. If you don't feel that way, you probably haven't played the good ones :)
I would say more rare than underdog IMO. Grundy has the tools to beat all of the above chars. Now if it's Joker/Lobo/Bane/Lex Luthor, I would agree. I just think underdog is the wrong term IMO. It certainly isn't the norm I do agree w/that
 

CrimsonShadow

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I would say more rare than underdog IMO. Grundy has the tools to beat all of the above chars. Now if it's Joker/Lobo/Bane/Lex Luthor, I would agree. I just think underdog is the wrong term IMO. It certainly isn't the norm I do agree w/that
What tools does Grundy have that nullify the offense of the characters mentioned above
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
I didn't say nullify, I said he has the tools to beat them, which he does. Grundy doesn't lose 7-3 to any of the above chars
 

CrimsonShadow

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I didn't say nullify, I said he has the tools to beat them, which he does. Grundy doesn't lose 7-3 to any of the above chars
As useless as matchup numbers are at this point -- I feel like you're speaking more from paper and conjecture than what happens in practice. If anything, those characters have the tools to wreck everything Grundy does best -- not the other way around.

He may not be the worst character in the game, but he is definitely an underdog in any tourney top 8 against the typical characters.
 
There batmans were terrible I couldn't believe they made it as far as they did. No mix ups just 223 string which isn't safe lol. I saw Valle doing b113 and get it blocked when he could have done b11 trait cancel into a 50/50 mixup. There horrible batman play made me quit watching the stream. I'm glad to hear tyrant won because if Valles horrible batman had won I'd lose faith in this game. Good job tyrant.
 
Great stuff tyrant!!!!, that grundy/supes team suits you well man, I wonder if egp is having a vindication this month, i'd like to go :). Also grundy is a pretty solid char, not the likes of chars like supes and black adam, but he can hold his own vs them. Grappling chars are always scary bcuz you can't stay grounded/can't block or you will eat a grab to leads to many other deadly setups.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
It's not useless at all. And I never said Grundy wrecks anything either, not sure where you are getting that from. I specifically said he has the tools to beat them, that is all. He is not incapable, that's my only point. It's not even a major uphill battle like Bane vs BA or Superman vs Joker

I don't want to get off topic, I'd be happy to discuss this further w/you in PMs but I don't agree Grundy is an underdog char.
 
The hypest match was definitely SonicBoomBrad vs EGP Wonder_Chef . All the biasedness. Good shit to Tyrant tho, Grundy don't fucking stop for a reason.


Also to the person that said Lobo is better than Grundy, I agree that hes good, but Grundy's trait grab MB has armor and gives him a buff. Lobo's MB grab just lets him start a fucking painful combo. Also, Lobo's low hook/TK Facedive is rendered null with WCC or a well-timed wakeup AA grab. Lobo also can't use MB Hook charge to suddenly be in your face, since WCC. The matchup is very rough lol.
 

CrimsonShadow

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It's not useless at all. And I never said Grundy wrecks anything either, not sure where you are getting that from. I specifically said he has the tools to beat them, that is all. He is not incapable, that's my only point. It's not even a major uphill battle like Bane vs BA or Superman vs Joker

I don't want to get off topic, I'd be happy to discuss this further w/you in PMs but I don't agree Grundy is an underdog char.
Unless he's equally likely to win, he's an underdog by definition. Being an underdog doesn't mean you can't win -- it means you're more likely to lose (or not usually predicted to win).
 

coolwhip

Master
Crimson's mancrush on Tyrant gives Storms' REO mancrush a run for its money. Mind you, I can't blame him, Tyrant is awesome.
 

Vogue

Mortal
I don't feel like arguing semantics I just don't want people to get the false idea that Solomon Grundy isn't a tournament viable character, he certainly is. I think superman is one of his main thorns though with his stupid trait armor break, and with how common and easy superman is , that is what hurts Grundys chances the most.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
Grundy - Black Adam is 3-7 at best
You're right, I did forget that matchup. I don't think he loses 7-3 to Superman/Batman/GL/KF though. Like I said I don't want to get offtopic I just don't think he's an underdog, that's all I'm saying

Jeffreys Yes, just addressed that now. I forgot that MU