Does anyone else agree Injustice is linear?

[Ninj]

I feel as if the combos are dumbed down to where it's only a one bnb path with some changes here and there.

How's this different than bnbs in mk9?...

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[Sasuga]

Most characters are not really linear but they can be played that way and still be effective. But that's probably not gonna last.

 

[RYX]

Sounds like you've never played a good catwoman. Also, hyperbole. Also, ribbing the REO/Tom Brady tier lists, which yes, did put her as top tier.

lol

 

[MorbidAltruism]

How's this different than bnbs in mk9?...

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It isn't...

 

[The Gabriel]

Autocorrect. Also everyone has bnbs that are 7-8 hits, so the hyperbole makes no sense and applies to more than catwoman.

Never saw krayzie do a combo less than 8 hits this past WNF, most of them more. So not sure where you're getting this 7 number from.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Sounds like you've never played a good catwoman. Also, hyperbole. Also, ribbing the REO/Tom Brady tier lists, which yes, did put her as top tier.

I play catwoman dipshit. The only way you see that many hits is if they use trait, and that means they are giving away their only invincible wakeup option.

Edit: 7 was just a rough estimate, it is probably like 10. Most characters can get that easily.

 

[Astrocytic]

How's this different than bnbs in mk9?...

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Because it is..
This is first month Sektor.

 

[Astrocytic]

It actually bothers me when I see a Superman/other-character player constantly go for his BnB even if at certain points a different combo would carry them to the wall.

Once people start sacrificing that max damage and start going for oki setups (like the ones Sinestro players recently found) you'll definitely not be thinking this.

Superman?

22,low scoop Superman?

It's like playing Sub Zero.
I had NO problem because even if Sub's combos were limited, he made up for it with other aspects of his playstyle.

That doesn't apply to every character in Injustice because not every character has the correct "other" set of tools that make up for their linear combos.

Basically, it's like everyone is Sub Zero.. ..and if your characters got good specials then you're in the clear.

Oh and "Oki" setups are not like Cyrax/Sektor Bomb/Missle setups now are they?

The "setups" in Injustice are crossovers after hard knockdowns. Big deal. (Providing your character even has a good string for it.)

 

[Circus]

Superman?

22,low scoop Superman?

Oh and "Oki" setups are not like Cyrax/Sektor Bomb/Missle setups now are they?

The "setups" in Injustice are crossovers after hard knockdowns. Big deal. (Providing your character even has a good string for it.)

Superman's actual pressure is derp'tastic, no doubt about it (for the record I don't really understand why some Superman players 221/lowscoop so much... it's either a risk or ends your pressure, F23 is derpa'licious, but there is no reason not to go for it instead of 221/lowscoop for the most part)

But Superman's oki game could be just as creative as anyone else. His juggles could wall carry from a good amount of the screen so you could sacrifice about 5-7% to corner the opponent. Or you could end in sweep and neutralize your opponent's wakeup with a dash forward neutral jump or ambiguous airdash jump in. He could even go for something stylish by dashing under them after his B3 in his combo, jumping a certain way, then air dashing for another form of an ambiguous jump-in that'll be sure to catch them off guard.

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And in my opinion setups into good oki to avoid your opponent's wakeups and force them to block a jump in IS a pretty big deal, man. It's no different from safe jumps in SSF4:AE. Instead of ending in max damage you could assure that you could still go for pressure right after you land some damage. Most max damage combos push the opponent mid/fullscreen back to neutral position where they could mount their offense again. It's all about keeping that advantage once you have it and every single character in the game is capable of it.

 

[Smarrgasm]

Ill just leave this here...

Check has a channel full of ridiculous stuff and im sure Tony-T does as well.

 

[DangerousBacon]

Superman?

22,low scoop Superman?

It's like playing Sub Zero.
I had NO problem because even if Sub's combos were limited, he made up for it with other aspects of his playstyle.

That doesn't apply to every character in Injustice because not every character has the correct "other" set of tools that make up for their linear combos.

Basically, it's like everyone is Sub Zero.. ..and if your characters got good specials then you're in the clear.

Oh and "Oki" setups are not like Cyrax/Sektor Bomb/Missle setups now are they?

The "setups" in Injustice are crossovers after hard knockdowns. Big deal. (Providing your character even has a good string for it.)

Joker, Bane, WonderWoman, Ares, Green Lantern, Raven, Cyborg, Black Adam, Shazam, Superman, Hawkgirl, Harley Quinn (dat charge gun), Batman, Sinestro, and Green Arrow all have setups that aren't just crossing your opponent over. Joker, Cyborg, Lex Luthor,Black Adam, and Batman's setups behave just like Sektor's and Cyrax's too so I don't see what you're getting at when you say they're not like missile and bomb setups.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

The point of this way to get people to think beyond their BnBs. Time will tell if they actually do it.

 

[RunwayMafia]

Catwoman is clearly not linear. She can alter her combo's in many different ways to avoid transitions, hard knockdown tech, MB Cat Dash set ups, DOUBLE F3 setups...I mean, this woman has tech for days and is the true hard knockdown/mix up queen.

I think the true reason these threads keep popping up is because Injustice FORCES you to utilize patience like I've never seen before (especially against so many zoners). I used to think the game was shit and was like meh...but now I realize that the majority of the time you have to really think things out, literally one step at a time. I lose when I start moving around unnecessarily or rushing in unnecessarily. Just my thoughts.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Catwoman is clearly not linear. She can alter her combo's in many different ways to avoid transitions, hard knockdown tech, MB Cat Dash set ups, DOUBLE F3 setups...I mean, this woman has tech for days and is the true hard knockdown/mix up queen.

I think the true reason these threads keep popping up is because Injustice FORCES you to utilize patience like I've never seen before (especially against so many zoners). I used to think the game was shit and was like meh...but now I realize that the majority of the time you have to really think things out, literally one step at a time. I lose when I start moving around unnecessarily or rushing in unnecessarily. Just my thoughts.

No, her combos are long and linear and she is broken tier. L2play bro.

 

[Astrocytic]

I think the true reason these threads keep popping up is because Injustice FORCES you to utilize patience like I've never seen before (especially against so many zoners). I used to think the game was shit and was like meh...but now I realize that the majority of the time you have to really think things out, literally one step at a time. I lose when I start moving around unnecessarily or rushing in unnecessarily. Just my thoughts.

I agree with you.

Injustice really is chess with fighting game mechanics, haha.

But that would bring me to other points about rushdown etc.

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Oh and I understand Injustice ISN'T MK and i'm fine with that.

My point here is that they could've done the combos better.

 

[MashPotatoTower]

There is no thinking
You are 100% wrong

 

[Ninj]

Because it is..
This is first month Sektor.

Wow, month 1 combos full of impractical XRAY's and corner setups vs Sheeva.

I'm not sure if you kept up with MK9, but Sektor evolved to have similar combos to these (very, very similar) but with better setups for continued pressure.

Sooo...again....what's the difference again? Shit will evolve as it does in every fighting game.

If you guys don't like the current combo's, go find better ones that lead to (more damage, better setups, etc)

 

[Astrocytic]

Ill just leave this here...

Check has a channel full of ridiculous stuff and im sure Tony-T does as well.

Tony-T?

You're bringing out Tony-T?

He has a bunch of improbable Cyrax combo videos, that are LIKE these videos, but aren't for online.

 

[Smarrgasm]

Tony-T?

You're bringing out Tony-T?

He has a bunch of improbable Cyrax combo videos, that are LIKE these videos, but aren't for online.

You question me bringing up tony t and check and then you reference online. Im done.

These are the flashy combos and of course they arent practical for actual play. Thats why we have BNB's. Who cares if BNB's arent flashy or are pretty much the same, they are just combos meant to be done when you open someone up. Im not sure what your point is at all.

 

[Hellbringer]

I totally disagree. If you gonna hate on injustice atleast use valid arguments.

 

[miloPKL]

Tony-T?
You're bringing out Tony-T?
He has a bunch of improbable Cyrax combo videos, that are LIKE these videos, but aren't for online.

strangely enough, Tony T is a real person like you and me, the only difference is he has a youtube channel and is doing what he loves

and sure he DOES have a lot of improbable cyrax combos. but he also has about a billion practical setups. i know because i played him. we have a saying "when tony touches you sit back and enjoy the mid round combo vid"

and cmon dude "not for online"? - nothing is 'for online' the game is made with offline lagless environment in mind.

 

[SaJa]

mk9 has dash block, that allows you to have any sort of crazy combo just choosing the distance you need. Also, mk9 didn't have this b3/f3 system that almost all the char are using for combo (b3+Ji3+lil string) and make them look the same.
The trait button is useless for many char, and not so fun for most, and it finally take off 1 normal hit button leaving only 3 to make different strings (LBSH, the trait could be just a harder execution to be activated like dbf something) except for WW, NW, and it sucks.
There are less characters than mk9.
Everyone has the same kind of armor.

That's why I feel like injustice can quickly be a boring game for people who played other fighting games.

About combos ? They didn't evolve so much and I'm talking about viable combos, not tony-T/check stuffs.

 

[Hellbringer]

mk9 has dash block, that allows you to have any sort of crazy combo just choosing the distance you need. Also, mk9 didn't have this b3/f3 system that almost all the char are using for combo (b3+Ji3+lil string) and make them look the same.
The trait button is useless for many char, and not so fun for most, and it finally take off 1 normal hit button leaving only 3 to make different strings (LBSH, the trait could be just a harder execution to be activated like dbf something) except for WW, NW, and it sucks.
There are less characters than mk9.
Everyone has the same kind of armor.

That's why I feel like injustice can quickly be a boring game for people who played other fighting games.

About combos ? They didn't evolve so much and I'm talking about viable combos, not tony-T/check stuffs.

Uhm, have you even played injustice or only watched youtube videos?

 

[Awsumpossm]

If you find the game to be Linear you ought to try out WW or NW.

Seriously.

 

[Ninj]

If you find the game to be Linear you ought to try out WW or NW.

Seriously.

This.

And the community is getting better at evolving. Catwoman is on her this iteration of bnb combos.

I'm guessing the op is referring to green lantern or something like that. his bnb hasn't changed since the mid combo trait activation combo was made the first week. most characters are evolving though... just depends on who's devoting time to them.

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