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Question bane low tier?!

i just recently read the article with top injustice players saying bane is lowest tier?!! what do you fellow bane players feel about that? seems to me that only characters with a decent zoning game seem to be popular. i by know means think bane is top tier, maybe bottom mid tier.
 

chowdizzle

Time for the Bland Salami!
Not a Bane player but I can see how much of an uphill battle it seems to always be as Bane. Against an even semi-competent player you're going to have to try extremely hard to get a win. He relies on his trait but in the end his trait will often cause him to fall upon his own sword. He has no real way to get past effective zoning and just has too hard of a time against this game's so commonly played top tier. He's too full of gimmick as opposed to real strategy and IMO it's a shame, Bane should be a beast in this game and it's unfortunate he's not. What I think he could use is a run just like Cerebella's from SkullGirls. Unfortunately the run he has remains an extremely mediocre tool that is too easily exploited by a large portion of the cast.
 
it feels like the full screen fight in this game is a big thing

bane literally has NOTHING except running charge and competent players punish it all day or just evade it

relies too much on trait to get in, trait debuff right now is too much. multi hit moves blow up his armor bad

too many cons that people learn how to exploit and too few pros that people quickly learn how to avoid or counter

he is based on too many gimmicks right now
 

D_Matt_Ma

Sheeva isn't Goro's wife. Goro is her husband.
Wait, why would they make him worse? Did NRS officially say that he's getting nerfed?
He's trying to make a sad joke. That is in all low tier fighting games, never has a low tier become high tier, despite multiple iterations and patching. Low tier characters are a result of design flaws, and anything short of new moves and new mechanics don't change those flaws. In fact, it is quite common for low tier characters to end up worse post-patch because the gap between the low tier and top tier tends to widen over time.
 
As a Bane Player if you match yourself up with the dregs of the internet, whether its random casuals with random players. All skill levels and random King of the Hill rooms. Bane will be just fine since most people will be going to play the game. Its just learning what to punish and how to do so and using your frame traps and other assorted tools in a thought out manner.

At a high level of play, Bane can do some MONSTEROUS things, however these aforementioned "Monsterous" things will usually not Pan out after 1 to 2 games. Bane is a character that is easily read and can be blown up for any whiff. Now yes all characters can be blown up for whiffing, but if Bane's momentum is ever stopped, even for a moment. At high level play that's all it takes.

Put a fork in'em cuz Bane's Pasta and he'll get ate up once any character get's their spacing options down. And due to multi hitting projectiles, he is the ONLY character that is forced to mythological work his way in the traditional way. Every other character has a viable and in many cases high damage option from full screen.

Bane is a monster in the corner so even high level players can get blown up... Then you take a round... then you get pushed from the corner by backing up. 1 wrong move is game over. You can be annihilating someone in the corner... they wager, out of the corner. Bane gets bodied usually. Still going to play him, cause he's a cool cat to begin with. But if I ever... you know what... this.


Everything went right...until... that
 

RYX

BIG PUSHER
He's trying to make a sad joke. That is in all low tier fighting games, never has a low tier become high tier, despite multiple iterations and patching. Low tier characters are a result of design flaws, and anything short of new moves and new mechanics don't change those flaws. In fact, it is quite common for low tier characters to end up worse post-patch because the gap between the low tier and top tier tends to widen over time.
Sonya used to be bottom tier.

THERE'S STILL HOPE ;_;
 

RWDY Nori

Where is crossplay?
Bane is solid mid but in this game that is not a bad thing. Doesn't seem to be many horrible 8-2 matchups or anything like that. Bane can beat anybody due to his armor getting in, his damage output at any point and time, and his now ridiculous forward dash
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
He's trying to make a sad joke. That is in all low tier fighting games, never has a low tier become high tier, despite multiple iterations and patching. Low tier characters are a result of design flaws, and anything short of new moves and new mechanics don't change those flaws. In fact, it is quite common for low tier characters to end up worse post-patch because the gap between the low tier and top tier tends to widen over time.
Zues in PSASBR.
Low tier, figured out he had a roll extention meaning he only had 1 frame of vulnerability inbetween dodge rolls. High tier.

Parappa in PSASBR.
Low tier, I ended up finding infinites, the rebar, IDI, IRC, and all of the other techs he has. High tier to the point where 90% of his techs are tourney banned.
 
Those of you saying Bane is mid or solid mid tier which characters do you seriously consider better than Bane? Dont get me wrong i love the character but he has some obvious disadvantages. For one if some of you havent noticed projectile characters are top tier in this game because lets face it projectiles work really well in Injustice. The problem isnt always getting in with a non projectile character like Bane but what happens when you do get in. You could get past projectiles just to eat a special, super, or strong combo. Making a mistake when playing Injustice can cost you big especially for a character like Bane if your venom runs out.

Hey every fighting game has to have low tier characters and i dont think Bane is the exception. The problem i see with Bane is he has less room for error unlike a good majority of the cast. If you mess up and dont take advantage of his venom trait your in deep shit against a solid player. Also unlike some characters Bane RELIES on his trait which makes him in my opinion too momentum heavy. I dont know how many times a bane player will be winning a match with a solid lead just to lose it in the end. Another problem is i feel Bane is becomes a bit more predictable compared to the rest of the cast.

Dont get me wrong though if you can take advantage of his venom and learn how to pace it out depending on the character/opponent your playing against he can be devastating. Tiers are based on matchups and in my opinion i dont think many characters AT THE MOMENT have more bad matchups then Bane.
 

RWDY Nori

Where is crossplay?
TheTHCGamer I believe Bane can beat anybody in the cast cause of his toolset but overall chars IMO that are considered to have better tools and ease of use, etc:

Green Lantern
Superman
Batman
Killer Frost
Black Adam
Solomon Grundy
Nightwing
Deathstroke (people that think he sucks can fuck off he's still super solid)

I'm not convinced anybody else is actually better honestly


I am basing this on matchups I feel Bane wins and loses. The only obvious losses are Batman/Superman/Nightwing everything else is up for debate IMO
 
Yea of course just because i feel Bane is low tier doesnt mean he still doesnt have the tools to beat the entire cast but its just a lot harder for him in my opinion compared to the majority of cast. Also its not just his bad matchups its how he bad he losses in those matchups. I agree with the Deathstroke comment hes still a very viable character even if his nerfs may have been a bit harsh. Ill say it again i feel a lot of those character have a lot more room for error than Bane. Mistakes that are made with Bane are very costly to the point where one mistake with venom against a solid player cant cost you the match.

I feel Bane is too momentum heavy to be considered mid tier and once again relies to much on his trait which leaves him exposed. Theres a reason why you dont see many tournament players maining Bane at the moment. Id like to see bane be mid tier over time but as of right now i do think hes low tier. All that being said its far to early in this games life so nothings set in stone and who knows what changer will be made to the game later on.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
You wanna see costly?
Guess wrong on his reset, just once. Every character eats a 100% midscreen combo for one wrong guess.
Can't jump it, can't backdash it, can't parry it, can't do anything but try to meager out something grab immune in the half a second you have to put it in. Best part is I don't even need level 3 venom to do it.
 
You wanna see costly?
Guess wrong on his reset, just once. Every character eats a 100% midscreen combo for one wrong guess.
Can't jump it, can't backdash it, can't parry it, can't do anything but try to meager out something grab immune in the half a second you have to put it in. Best part is I don't even need level 3 venom to do it.
Where can I find this 100% midscreen without lvl 3 venom?