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DamagePoints

DamagePoints

Noob
Anyone know what the rumored nerfs and buffs are that will be coming with the bat girl pack??? I've heard quite a few things.
 
DamagePoints

DamagePoints

Noob
I honestly hope they don't do anything. Evo is coming up soon. At some point they will have to quit changing it so people can practice for evo.
 
ReZo

ReZo

MKX
Some characters could use some buffs, or minor tweaks to make them more viable, tired of seeing Superman, Black Adam every tourney, I have no comment for nerfs lol
 
dookieagain

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
From what I've heard:

Probable:

Ares B23 made techable. So that his reset is a read on the tech and on wake up rather than wake up alone.

Cyborg block infinite removed. (Likely via minimum height or slight change in frames on IANB)

Doomsday 112 will not do full damage on block.

Possible:

Grundy B+1 will not guarantee throw. Possibly like Lobo Stagger which can be reversal-ed out of.

Superman Change to optic blast so that it has slightly more recovery and can't be looped for 70%+ in the corner.

Aquaman Trait cooldown increase.

Batman Trait cooldown increase.

Black Adam slightly more recovery on non-MB divekick.

Shazam no guaranteed combo on throw tech.

Unlikely but I've heard these mentioned:

Sinestro restoration of some of his pre-nerf safe strings.

Harley Improved trait recovery.

Lobo Improved trait recovery. Full invincibility on wakeup bf3.

Green Lantern Full invincibility on wakeup lantern grab.

Superman slightly more negative frames on block with breath. (-4 to -1)

Even more unlikely but people have said it:

Deathstroke some kind of ambiguous nerf to either his guns or his 50-50.

Doomsday some kind of ambiguous nerf to something/everything.

Green Arrow buff to non-special arrows.
 
ReZo

ReZo

MKX
dookieagain said:
From what I've heard:


Possible:

Grundy B+1 will not guarantee throw. Possibly like Lobo Stagger which can be reversal-ed out of.
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I hope this never happens lol
Grundy's reset is needed due to his horrid ability to get in on "Good" Zoners. Only way to make up the loss of HP getting near them lol
 
tactfulgamer

tactfulgamer

Apprentice
dookieagain said:
From what I've heard:

Probable:

Ares B23 made techable. So that his reset isn't guaranteed and becomes a read.

Cyborg block infinite removed. (Likely via minimum height or slight change in frames on IANB)

Doomsday 112 will not do full damage on block.

Possible:

Grundy B+1 will not guarantee throw. Possibly like Lobo Stagger which can be reversal-ed out of.

Superman Change to optic blast so that it has slightly more recovery and can't be looped for 70%+ in the corner.

Aquaman Trait cooldown increase.

Batman Trait cooldown increase.

Black Adam slightly more recovery on non-MB divekick.

Shazam no guaranteed combo on throw tech.

Unlikely but I've heard these mentioned:

Sinestro restoration of some of his pre-nerf safe strings.

Harley Improved trait recovery.

Lobo Improved trait recovery. Full invincibility on wakeup bf3.

Green Lantern Full invincibility on wakeup lantern grab.

Superman slightly more negative frames on block with breath. (-4 to -1)

Even more unlikely but people have said it:

Deathstroke some kind of ambiguous nerf to either his guns or his 50-50.

Doomsday some kind of ambiguous nerf to something/everything.

Green Arrow buff to non-special arrows.
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Wow, I thought I was keeping up with current events - guess not. Thanks for posting these.

If true, my two mains are getting love - Nice! GA and Lobo.

Lobo definitely needs wake up assist.
GA normal arrow buff? If true, I don't really see a need for it. I honestly think he's fine as is from what I can tell thus far.
 
dookieagain

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
l ReZo l said:
I hope this never happens lol
Grundy's reset is needed due to his horrid ability to get in on "Good" Zoners. Only way to make up the loss of HP getting near them lol
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I mean I get that, but what makes his matchups against good zoners possible, makes him completely obliterate the rushdown/grappler end of the cast, and getting guaranteed unscaled damage and a buff for one bar is pretty nuts.

Again though this isn't a balance thread and I have no idea the veracity of anything. I listed what I heard and how much faith I personally have in each rumor.
 
dookieagain

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
tactfulgamer said:
Wow, I thought I was keeping up with current events - guess not. Thanks for posting these.

If true, my two mains are getting love - Nice! GA and Lobo.

Lobo definitely needs wake up assist.
GA normal arrow buff? If true, I don't really see a need for it. I honestly think he's fine as is from what I can tell thus far.
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Put it back in your pants cowboy.

Those are under unlikely and even more unlikely.

I see Lobo getting a buff at some point, but almost certainly not in this patch since he's so new. I only see him getting a buff because I've seen top players (REO) and popular players (Maximillion) both ask for it. NRS is bound to listen somewhat if only because both of those guys have a ton of fans.
 
tactfulgamer

tactfulgamer

Apprentice
dookieagain said:
Put it back in your pants cowboy.

Those are under unlikely and even more unlikely.

I see Lobo getting a buff at some point, but almost certainly not in this patch since he's so new. I only see him getting a buff because I've seen top players (REO) and popular players (Maximillion) both ask for it. NRS is bound to listen somewhat if only because both of those guys have a ton of fans.
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Yep. That's why I said "if true" :)

Agreed. Lobo I can definitely see.
 
ReZo

ReZo

MKX
dookieagain said:
I mean I get that, but what makes his matchups against good zoners possible, makes him completely obliterate the rushdown/grappler end of the cast, and getting guaranteed unscaled damage and a buff for one bar is pretty nuts.
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I can agree to a certain extent.

His grab (if using the most damaging one) is 31%, you have to combo into it, which can be easy or difficult depending on opponent, then MB Swamp hands, to get the guaranteed unscaled damage.

Then you have say Black Adam who drops 19% per MB DF2, anywhere on the map. (If it connects) And you can see how what seems a bit nuts at times, is literally not as easy to just throw around as you might think.

No good opponent is ever going to get hit by random MB swamp hands, unless I use it properly when they are doing their attack. But, I have to take damage in order for it to get off, then you have to consider, is grundy close enough to make it to the opponent to get off the B+1, pause, grab. THEN, you have to take into consideration can you spam B fast enough to get it off lol. If your off on your timing by a millisecond, the opponent diagonal jumps backwards right out of it. But, yes, if done perfectly, it is still guarenteed.

Just saying the zoners who can drop 10-19% per attack, make up the difference much quicker than grundy can using a reset that he might get off 3-5 times a match.

But, Im biased lol, so take it with a grain of salt
 
EGGXI

EGGXI

Scary Bat
Boon & Hector don't seem to keen on the idea of Buffs nerfs just yet, nor does half the community.

I'm sure it won't be nerf/buffmageddon. That being said, if they could include a buff just for me that makes me considerably less pants I'd be okay with that.
 
Dandy J

Dandy J

i can see all the amine
that first superman change refers to his db3 right? it cant mean f2d1, since that would do almost nothing to affect the character. im assuming the other one meant +1 to -4 for breath, as it is +1 now.
 
dookieagain

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
Dandy J said:
that first superman change refers to his db3 right? it cant mean f2d1, since that would do almost nothing to affect the character. im assuming the other one meant +1 to -4 for breath, as it is +1 now.
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Yeah more recovery on DB3. Also I've heard people say on various forums and streams from +1 to -1, all the way up to -4. I don't think either change is that likely though. I haven't heard that from anyone whose opinion I trust.
 
injusticefan14

injusticefan14

Mortal
I know that most people would disagree with me but i would really like Killer Frost's Slide adjusted so it can go under Deathstrokes Machine and Normal Guns. Because its like one of the only moves that i can avoid spammer Deathstrokes with online. I know they could do the Low Gun move but still :)
 
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