Should dominant characters get nerfed? Or should the other characters get buffed to match them?

[Posthuman]

Cute.

But if you think this game will never get a balance patch, you're delusional. This is a discussion on which direction they should take with that balance patch.

Adapt to the fact they are eventually going to patch the game.

I will adapt to anything they decided to do with the game but most buffs/nerfs people are asking for are retarded.
DS is fine.
GL is not even top tier.
SM is really good but not broken... etc etc

That only fixes we need are removing glitches, block infinites, fixing hitboxes, things that break the game so yeah shut up and adapt.

 

[Circus]

I didn't read through the entire thread... but I am surprised in such a different philosophy. I figured nerfing the few dominant characters would be way more practical than buffing everyone else. I guess the community disagrees. Fascinating. :16Bit

Now that I've had more opinions on the matter I actually have switched into thinking that some (but very few) characters on top need very slight nerfs in addition to buffing the lesser characters. For example making Superman's breathe have more pushback so you could backdash away from another F23.

It is really cool to see that even with all the threads about complaining about characters that most aren't fishing for nerfs at all though.

 

[THTB]

The problem is you can't properly balance things until you learn how the game really plays. And every minor change may make a big difference somewhere else that you didn't expect.

When you buff everything, you run the risk of making everything so strong that the game is just abusing broke stuff. If you nerf too much, then the cast becomes super limited and boring as a result.

You have to pick and choose. If drastic buffs to deal with particular elements better is required, then you may have to nerf said element. And sometimes, character designs just don't mesh well at all with the engine, so they'll always be low tier without an overpowering element.

 

[Posthuman]

The problem is you can't properly balance things until you learn how the game really plays.

QFTT!

 

[Owerbart]

Big dudes should be nerfed. I can't imagine any buff that could make Bane even have a chance with Supes or Cyborg

 

[Circus]

When you buff everything, you run the risk of making everything so strong that the game is just abusing broke stuff. If you nerf too much, then the cast becomes super limited and boring as a result.

You have to pick and choose. If drastic buffs to deal with particular elements better is required, then you may have to nerf said element. And sometimes, character designs just don't mesh well at all with the engine, so they'll always be low tier without an overpowering element.

Yea, basically this. I don't agree with anything significant being changed until probably August after EVO. Saying someone needs a buff at this point is just speculation and theory crafting but it's nice to see people are on the right mindset than they were when MK9 was at this point in it's life.

I will adapt to anything they decided to do with the game but most buffs/nerfs people are asking for are retarded.
DS is fine.
GL is not even top tier.
SM is really good but not broken... etc etc

That only fixes we need are removing glitches, block infinites, fixing hitboxes, things that break the game so yeah shut up and adapt.

Have you read anything I've posted on this thread?

You're talking to the wrong person. I'm against the nerfs.
You can't just not read anything and tell the OP to shut up.

 

[ApertureBlack]

I didn't read through the entire thread... but I am surprised in such a different philosophy. I figured nerfing the few dominant characters would be way more practical than buffing everyone else. I guess the community disagrees. Fascinating. :16Bit

Its more so a combination of the two

 

[IrishMantis]

That is the best suggestion for a Superman nerf I've heard. Great thinking. If Breathe pushes the opponent back enough that they could backdash away from another F23 then I think Superman would still be amazing but not so braindead and it wouldn't destroy him because he'd still have the crazy pressure in the corner.

Love it. You should seriously tweet the idea to Paulo.

Cheers man, thanks, I don't have a twitter you could do it if y want man, I doubt it make a difference, and I'm glad you understood what I meant too

 

[IrishMantis]

Big dudes should be nerfed. I can't imagine any buff that could make Bane even have a chance with Supes or Cyborg

You mean buffed, and the only one that would maybe need a small buff is Bane, the other big guys are all good