Question Wake-up Slide

[Obanye]

Am I missing something here? It seems to be a safe on block wakeup option that also gets invincibility when uses it as a wakeup. Also it seems to get Frost out of cross-up setups since she just dashes away safely or hits them. Other than blowing a bar on an armored attack what are characters supposed to use to counter this move? Thanks for any replies.

 

[16 Bit]

Jump back and do a jump attack as you land on top of her.

It's one of the best wakeup attacks in the game. Possibly the best.

 

[Primiera]

Between her parry and her slide, it's probably best to back off with a jump back or neutral jump, or stand out of throw range and do a MB f+3 delayed to beat either option.

 

[Obanye]

Cool, I guess I'll work on my neutral jump meaty timings. Thanks.

 

[Primiera]

You won't want to meaty her with a NJ, you'll want to punish where she'll be after wake-up slide. I think you meant that, though.

 

[Deleted member 9158]

Anyone have any tips as how to punish Black ice? it's only -4 on block...

 

[Konqrr]

Anyone have any tips as how to punish Black ice? it's only -4 on block...

Who do you play?

 

[Deleted member 9158]

Who do you play?

Oh, yes that would've helped. I main Harley Quinn and the Joker.

 

[Konqrr]

Oh, yes that would've helped. I main Harley Quinn and the Joker.

Ok... first thing is you cannot truly punish her, but she is at a frame disadvantage and your characters have some good low attacks so she cannot parry you for using them.

After blocking a slide...
* with Joker, use b+1 as she cannot parry this.
* with Harley, use b+2. Be careful because this move has like a 12 frame startup but it hits low. You can also go straight into Tantrum Stance which hits low and catches KF if she tries to backdash.
* Both, throw.

To truly punish a wakeup slide, you cannot block it!
* f+3 or b+3 MB has 1 hit of armor and you get a full combo on a read.
* Jump back from jump distance into full jump combo.

 

[Deleted member 9158]

Ok... first thing is you cannot truly punish her, but she is at a frame disadvantage and your characters have some good low attacks so she cannot parry you for using them.

After blocking a slide...
* with Joker, use b+1 as she cannot parry this.
* with Harley, use b+2. Be careful because this move has like a 12 frame startup but it hits low. You can also go straight into Tantrum Stance which hits low and catches KF if she tries to backdash.
* Both, throw.

To truly punish a wakeup slide, you cannot block it!
* f+3 or b+3 MB has 1 hit of armor and you get a full combo on a read.
* Jump back from jump distance into full jump combo.

Thanks a lot, I appreciate the effort you put into that post!