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Wigy

There it is...
That goes for every character. Freddy can be stupid good online with his zoning, where the opponent can't jump or duck on reaction. Skarlet also can have stupid good zoning as well as stupid good rushdown where she gets a meterless 50/50 off red dash.
You try doing any decent freddy combo on a shabby connection, see what happens, the timing on his hellspikes goes out the window half the time. Skarlet's zoning is good because she can cancel and play mind game, i find myself messing up the cancel a lot online which i do not do offline like ever, so it takes a big dive online. Raiden can abuse his teleport with lag which basically negates most characters zoning
 

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
Whats ur tactics? Block d4 then throw in a f3? I try that a lot and it does nothing.
Well like prev mentioned, it's lag dependent. But I go real basic...they wanna annoy me with d4 np. Mileena's online tend to be over aggressive. They will tele at some point. Block and 1,1,1 44 nut or whatever variation you want and then pressure...they will invariably always try that roll shit too..b3..just make sure to duck the second hit of ex tele kick
 

Wigy

There it is...
Well like prev mentioned, it's lag dependent. But I go real basic...they wanna annoy me with d4 np. Mileena's online tend to be over aggressive. They will tele at some point. Block and 1,1,1 44 nut or whatever variation you want and then pressure...they will invariably always try that roll shit too..b3..just make sure to duck the second hit of ex tele kick
I must be getting some next level laggy people or something, even if i crouch under the second hit of the teleport i can barely do a D1 nevermind a 1
 

Playpal

Warrior
You try doing any decent freddy combo on a shabby connection, see what happens, the timing on his hellspikes goes out the window half the time. Skarlet's zoning is good because she can cancel and play mind game, i find myself messing up the cancel a lot online which i do not do offline like ever, so it takes a big dive online. Raiden can abuse his teleport with lag which basically negates most characters zoning
What happens when you're on a shitty connection but you're playing a freddy who can zone or do combos? What happens when you play a skarlet who can do all her shit? You're fucked. And it's very much possible. You only think of the times where online hurt you, but can you think of all the times it benefited you? Or did you just think that the connection was good?
 

Wigy

There it is...
What happens when you're on a shitty connection but you're playing a freddy who can zone or do combos? What happens when you play a skarlet who can do all her shit? You're fucked. And it's very much possible. You only think of the times where online hurt you, but can you think of all the times it benefited you? Or did you just think that the connection was good?
Im well aware that if i played a skarlet or freddy with lag i would be at adv. But this last statement makes me VERY strongly thing you play offline exclusively since, from experience if i was to play 10 matches, i will get 5 laos 1 smoke 1 raiden 1 Jc and 1 mileena 1 misc other character. Thats the general distribution of character usage online. I mean sure sometimes you'll get the occasional rain or something but i can remember playing maybe 3 rains in my last 500 games.

I use cyrax, and as im sure you know a big part of his game is his stupid combos. I can tell by the delay in the character select screen what combo's i'll be attempting. If its fine i'll do the usual b2 FB xyx CB... etc with a little lag i'll do 123 cb... with a shit tonne of lag i do MB Uppercut, dont even go for a reset. I bascially end up just command grabbing 48 times in a row.
 

Wigy

There it is...
Every character is dumb online. It's online. There's no character where online hasn't helped or hindered them.
I never disagree'd with this, just to say... It's just that some characters are especially stupid.
 
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Deleted member 9158

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Take online for what it is, just never take it seriously.

I also never knew me playing Mileena online was inducing so much rage. I do agree with the general consensus that reptile is an asshat online. BF2 spam irks me to no end.

But then again, it's online, so whatever.
 

Playpal

Warrior
I played online a lot til about a month ago where I stopped playing online. A week ago, I vowed never to play again. When I used to play, I'd play people from TYM on my friend's list.

If you're playing randoms, I don't know what to tell you. These people will use either scorpion or lao or some shit and then teabag you when you lose. The lag that benefits them may feel more prevalent in characters you play more, probably because you play them more. I've played quite a few characters online and played against a lot of characters online. I can say with experience that lag benefits and hurts everyone.
 

Wigy

There it is...
Take online for what it is, just never take it seriously.

I also never knew me playing Mileena online was inducing so much rage. I do agree with the general consensus that reptile is an asshat online. BF2 spam irks me to no end.

But then again, it's online, so whatever.
Grab. Grab then Grab some more.

I know its online but it is just a basic human reaction to get angry when you feel cheated, and i haven't met a mileena online that has in any way proved their better than me but a number of them beat me.
 

GGA Saucy Jack

The artist formerly known as ImNewbieSauce
As long as you take online for what it is, and you dont expect it to be the same game, youre fine. I try to view the varying connections as a challenge of how i can adjust in game.

NW bnb punish good connection: B22, axe, B2 axe, 1, 1, 122 shoulder
NW bnb punish bad connection: B22, axe, 2 axe, shoulder

Its all about figuring out what will and wont happen in a certain connection. Annoying? Sure. But I try to be positive and embrace the challenge. Otherwise id get to frustrated.
 

Wigy

There it is...
I played online a lot til about a month ago where I stopped playing online. A week ago, I vowed never to play again. When I used to play, I'd play people from TYM on my friend's list.

If you're playing randoms, I don't know what to tell you. These people will use either scorpion or lao or some shit and then teabag you when you lose. The lag that benefits them may feel more prevalent in characters you play more, probably because you play them more. I've played quite a few characters online and played against a lot of characters online. I can say with experience that lag benefits and hurts everyone.
I'll say again, i never disagree'd with this but you cannot disagree that certain characters benefit more.
 

Wigy

There it is...
How can you argue that? Raidens combos are easy to do in like 0.1mb 10483 ping internet. Skarlets, are hard enough online, the f4 throwing knife one especially. Small hitbox characters become hard to hit with jump punches because the delay and timing. With mileena her combos are easily done in lag and the lag actually makes her specials better. The roll when blocked puts her at an awkward height which can be hard to combo from with a lot of characters i usually just jump punch her right away, which i cannot do from reaction with lag. So from roll i cannot optimise damage. Her regular teleport is punishable as per usual. Nothing much changes there her ex teleport becomes pretty much unpunishable with most of the cast and even then i cant get the damage i usually would. Most of the mileenas i play dont try instant air sai's but just do em on the ground so their zoning is uneffected.
 

Wigy

There it is...
How can you say that is equal to cyrax when the online change i see for him is that his combos become unusable?
 

Deyrax

Skarlet who ?
I didn't know 2,4,low hat included any directional inputs.

In other news, Mileena and Raiden are still top 5.
shoutouts for being an ass. i guess low hat is performed by mashing triangle. which was not the case, anyway. stay free.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
My biggest dilemma is I have to go from playing reactionary to guessing. That is enough to ruin online for me
this is the difference. The one and only truth. The game changes from "my reaction was awesome and it worked" to "my reaction was awesome and I died"

edit: I see alot of newer faces in this thread as well. The problem with "don't play randoms" is the whole "Who is really a random" thing.

I don't have STB in front of my gamertag. I bet 90% of the people I play think i'm a random (i have a losing record too!!! fuckin gr8one).
 

lebanese boy

Kombatant
mk online is more balanced ten offline cause low tier can win there lol jk
Yea man online is very bad i hope injustice will be better
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
I don't know. I usually play by reaction online as well as off. Maybe we all should post our speed test results because I'm willing to bet half of you have a low quality connection. :confused:

While it is important for a fighting game to have a strong netcode, at the end of the day it really comes down to your connection and internet service. A game can have a great netcode, but if you have a poor connection it won't matter.