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1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
Anyway, if I had my way Baraka would be low B tier, but if we're gonna put him in C then he's far and away at the top of that one.
im not 100% on top of C, very well could be but im not 100% set in stone with it,
i feel sindel could maybe be better than baraka.
 

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
Smoke is most definitely within the top 5 characters. Best anti-air, almost any hit will lead to a potential 100% reset, great ground game, projectiles are pretty much not an option against him, probably some of the best runaway on top of that. What's not to love?
 

Espio

Kokomo
espio please do not become denfensive. im pretty sure you know what i am and am not aware of to do with baraka. not need to be smart about it.

no the strings that are not used are pretty interruptible, 3*b3, no one should be using this outside whiffing the 3 in footsies imo, 12*b3 the same, b32*3, no one does this. and if u wana made a read on trying to interupt b31 only to eat a b32-chop combo is very unsmartread to make as b31 should be used as punish only as it -11.
also about being left at neg frames, most of the time baraka is left at 0 or + frames apart from f44 at -2 and a blocked safe blade charge.
does ex rolls armor working stop it from being a sluggish move?

cmon man ya know i have no problem with you or saying any char that is better than baraka but imo stryker is 100% not one of them so that i all im saying

We're buddies man, I'm just posting my opinion, you posted yours.

Character placing one up or below someone are a minor matter, you're awesome and a good guy, which is what actually matters and we're cool :).


There's nothing I'm being defensive about, Stryker is low tier, I don't care anything about that. You're the one making a big deal about him having gaps in his strings like nobody else has them (there are characters better than Stryker and Baraka that have the same number or more gaps than them in their strings).


It's not sluggish though(roll toss), it executes at about the same speed as a projectile.

Yes Baraka has safe options as does Stryker. Back 1,2,2 is -2 with pushback 1,2 is neutral with pushback, 1, 1 is neutral for Stryker. Stryker has + on block options too, we can list all their great tools and strengths all day, but the bottom line is: Baraka and Stryker are slow characters that both get blown up by many top tier characters like Kabal.

Baraka may or may not be better than Stryker.....I'm not worried about it really...I'm not going to drop him if he's below or above Baraka and I imagine the same is true for you.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
We're buddies man, I'm just posting my opinion, you posted yours. Character placing one up or below someone are a petty manner, you're awesome and a good guy, which is what actually matters and we're cool :).


There's nothing I'm being defensive about, Stryker is low tier, I don't care anything about that. You're the one making a big deal about him having gaps in his strings like nobody else has them (there are characters better than Stryker and Baraka that have the same number or more gaps than them in their strings).


It's not sluggish though(roll toss), it executes at about the same speed as a projectile.

Yes Baraka has safe options as does Stryker. Back 1,2,2 is -2 with pushback 1,2 is neutral with pushback, 1, 1 is neutral for Stryker. Stryker has + on block options too, we can list all their great tools and strengths all day, but the bottom line is: Baraka and Stryker are slow characters that both get blown up by many top tier characters. like Kabal.

Baraka may or may not be better than Stryker.....I'm not worried about it really...I'm not going to drop him if he's below or above Baraka and I imagine the same is true for you.
well thats good,i thought u may of been getting denfensive with the whole "are you aware...i could name 20 chars..." part.

the difference in the interuptable strings baraka has and the ones that stryker are baraka doesnt use the ones that can.
also b1 , 11, 12 all hit high and its not like with smoke that people have to take them in fear of a fast overhead, those strings are pretty poor outside a jip and even then still lacking.

ok maybe i should explain myself better on "roll being slugish", compare it to the other advancing specials in the game
(superman,blade charge,shadow kick,jades flash kick,elbow dash,dash punch,nomad dash,shoulder charge,mileenas roll,kano ball,sub slide)
can u see what i mean now?

i feel bad for anyone for would play or drop a char because of list someone made but there still the fact some chars and better than others like with all FGs so its not un-healthy to discuss why, bit time wasting sure lol but not invalid time spent
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I don't know if I am the only one , but I think the community is really sleeping on rain. Rain can be dangerous as Fuck in good hands
Believe it when i see it

I wanna play scar more

we heard this about sindel for a year
 

Espio

Kokomo
well thats good,i thought u may of been getting denfensive with the whole "are you aware...i could name 20 chars..." part.

the difference in the interuptable strings baraka has and the ones that stryker are baraka doesnt use the ones that can.
also b1 , 11, 12 all hit high and its not like with smoke that people have to take them in fear of a fast overhead, those strings are pretty poor outside a jip and even then still lacking.

ok maybe i should explain myself better on "roll being slugish", compare it to the other advancing specials in the game
(superman,blade charge,shadow kick,jades flash kick,elbow dash,dash punch,nomad dash,shoulder charge,mileenas roll,kano ball,sub slide)
can u see what i mean now?

i feel bad for anyone for would play or drop a char because of list someone made but there still the fact some chars and better than others like with all FGs so its not un-healthy to discuss why, bit time wasting sure lol but not invalid time spent
I won't keep the back and forth going, but one final point I will address is the comparisons of those specials.

A lot of those are full combo punishable on block, Stryker's is -7, it's a matter of perspective on what is better I'd rather get caught in pressure for my move getting blocked than eat a full combo for it being blocked. Raiden's superman does 10% on hit and he eats a full combo for it being blocked, roll toss does 12%. I'd trade speed for safeness, but that's my opinion.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
I won't keep the back and forth going, but one final point I will address is the comparisons of those specials.

A lot of those are full combo punishable on block, Stryker's is -7, it's a matter of perspective on what is better I'd rather get caught in pressure for my move getting blocked than eat a full combo for it being blocked. Raiden's superman does 10% on hit and he eats a full combo for it being blocked, I'd trade speed for safeness, but that's my opinion.
that is a valid point my friend and roll also hits special mid while some can be neutral ducked and i get your point on speed vs safety but my point is also still valid on the poor startup compared to others so its all swings and round-a-bouts i guess lol
 

quandaghost

kung lao swag walker
Jade just lacks the tools to do so. She has many things, but the amount of work you're putting in to do the things she does you could have picked another character, and doing it safer for bigger damage and better set-ups. I think sh isn't the worst, but then again sheeva can punish for 50% if you duck low.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Sounds fair to me. Objectively, looking at matchups across the board and how their viability is thus affected, without anyone's personal kryptonite, I would say:

S:
1. Kabal
2. Kung Lao
3. Sonya
4. Cyrax
5. Kenshi

A+:
6: Freddy
7: Cyblax
8: Johnny Cage
9: Jax
10: Kitana
11: Reptile
12: Liu Kang
13: Raiden

A:
14: Smoke
15: Skarlet
16: Human Sektor/Steve
17: Sektor
18: Shang Tsung

A-:
19: Mileena
20: Sub-Zero
21: Rain
22: Ermac
23: Scorpion

B:
24: Quan Chi
25: Sindel
26: Noob Saibot
27: Cyber Sub-Zero
28: Nightwolf

C:
29: Baraka
30: Stryker
31: Kano (yeah, god forbid I'm not desperate enough to try and change his matchups to put him below Sheeva and still ends up higher)
32: Jade
33: Sheeva
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
I've been saying it for almost 8-10 months now. Freddy is 4th place. My S+ tier placement would look like this. Kenshi is consistently better than Freddy but freddy vs kenshi played at the highest level = freddy wins.

S+ Tier
Kabal
Kenshi

S
Cyrax
Freddy
Smoke

A
Kitana
Sonya
Jax
Kung Lao
Skarlet
Cage