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HGTV DrFlash44

Quan Cheese!!!
Pig Of The Hut

stryker better than baraka??? :eek: please explain your thinking on that.
stryker has piss poor mixups, his strings are like swiss cheese with all the holes, shit mids outside standing 4,gimmick pressure, one of the resets in game with least adv,dodgy sluggish armor, semi decent zoning, semi decent anti zoning and decent d2 & standing 4

baraka has great mix up potential(although slow), great meter building, good mids, one of them combo starter for 25%,midscreen resets that guarentee near a half bar of meter gain afterward unless the opp wants to jump and take the damage,corner resets where you must guess armor or not,the easiest armor move in the game easest to hit someone with, blade charge which is unpunishable by most of the cast on block, great d4, decent AA and crossup tools, good corner carry, epic backdash, stupid hitbox on his jip/crossover punch, wicked good corner game, +5, +8, +10 and +11 frametraps

like seriously am i missing something cause imo stryker should be BARELY over "kano tier"
I think that baraka is way better than Stryker. I've played a good both and I had a lot more trouble with baraka.
 

NKZero

Warrior
B Wizz made Raiden look DAMN good in the KOTH casuals
I know right? It shows just how devastating Raiden is when teleport is used correctly. Not to add to the fact that Raiden excels at holding a life lead and loses very few MU's. In fact, he loses as few MU's as S tier characters but he just doesn't win as many (has more 5-5's).
 

Espio

Kokomo
Pig Of The Hut

stryker better than baraka??? :eek: please explain your thinking on that.
stryker has piss poor mixups, his strings are like swiss cheese with all the holes, shit mids outside standing 4,gimmick pressure, one of the resets in game with least adv,dodgy sluggish armor, semi decent zoning, semi decent anti zoning and decent d2 & standing 4

baraka has great mix up potential(although slow), great meter building, good mids, one of them combo starter for 25%,midscreen resets that guarentee near a half bar of meter gain afterward unless the opp wants to jump and take the damage,corner resets where you must guess armor or not,the easiest armor move in the game easest to hit someone with, blade charge which is unpunishable by most of the cast on block, great d4, decent AA and crossup tools, good corner carry, epic backdash, stupid hitbox on his jip/crossover punch, wicked good corner game, +5, +8, +10 and +11 frametraps

like seriously am i missing something cause imo stryker should be BARELY over "kano tier"
You're aware Baraka's are pretty interruptible too right? He still has non-interruptible strings and stagger options that leave him at slight disadavantage. I can list about 20 characters with interruptible strings.

Ex roll toss's armor is good and that's what you're going to use to get out of pressure, not baton sweep.

I can list all the great things for Stryker, but it doesn't really matter...they're both C tier characters at the end of the day....
 

TheTetraSpirit

Kombatant
You're aware Baraka's are pretty interruptible too right? Ex roll toss's armor is good and that's what you're going to use to get out of pressure, not baton sweep.

I can list all the great things for Stryker, but it doesn't really matter...they're both C tier characters at the end of the day.
Not really.
The strings/normals you'll mostly see are 221+2(Only interuptable after a JiP with a semi-tight window,) B31xxSlices and F2xxSlices, neither of which are interuptable unless you have a super-small hitbox for B31, and then you can just whore out F2 all day.

Anyway, if I had my way Baraka would be low B tier, but if we're gonna put him in C then he's far and away at the top of that one.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
If the worst thing that happens in this thread is a huge outrage over stryker one slot over baraka then ive done one hell of a job lol

Based on my personal MU #s with both
i wouldnt say huge outrage now lol but none the less i still feel im totally correct on what i said and given reasons why i think so.
when u look at both chars tools,i dont see how stryker could come out on top

when u say your personal MU# with them do u mean if u did up numbers for baraka/stryker or how your chars mu#s are against them?
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Some minor changes I'd make-
Reptile isn't above Jax or Cage, LBSH.
Jade isn't the worst in the game.

As stated above, this is your opinion.
He definitely is. Not one person rapes him, while Jax and Cage both get fucked in the face like 2-8 by Kenshi and 3-7 by Kabal
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
i wouldnt say huge outrage now lol but none the less i still feel im totally correct on what i said and given reasons why i think so.
when u look at both chars tools,i dont see how stryker could come out on top

when u say your personal MU# with them do u mean if u did up numbers for baraka/stryker or how your chars mu#s are against them?
their #s vs the cast

I moved baraka after thinking
 

Chongo

Dead Kings Rise
He definitely is. Not one person rapes him, while Jax and Cage both get fucked in the face like 2-8 by Kenshi and 3-7 by Kabal
I think Sonya and Cyrax rape him. DP, no dinner. Reptile doesn't get any Red Lobster, he only gets death.

But what do I know? I'm a lagtile who underplays my character to the fullest degree.
 

Espio

Kokomo
Not really.
The strings/normals you'll mostly see are 221+2(Only interuptable after a JiP with a semi-tight window,) B31xxSlices and F2xxSlices, neither of which are interuptable unless you have a super-small hitbox for B31, and then you can just whore out F2 all day.

Anyway, if I had my way Baraka would be low B tier, but if we're gonna put him in C then he's far and away at the top of that one.
You're missing the point..he mentioned Stryker having interruptible strings, I'm just mentioning the fact that Baraka has them too, nothing more, nothing less. I don't even care if Baraka is or isn't better than Stryker.
 

TheTetraSpirit

Kombatant
You're missing the point..he mentioned Stryker having interruptible strings, I'm just mentioning the fact that Baraka has them too, nothing more, nothing less. I don't even care if Baraka is or isn't better than Stryker.
And I'm saying he really doesn't, especially not to the extent of Stryker.
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
I think Sonya and Cyrax rape him. DP, no dinner. Reptile doesn't get any Red Lobster, he only gets death.

But what do I know? I'm a lagtile who underplays my character to the fullest degree.
Cyrax? You're silly. You are the biggest emo, sorry frothy
 

Rokinlobster

Nightwolf of the galaxy
Yeah. Definately no downplaying him at all.
How can you even downplay him? ( serious) i guess his tele is a little long. No standard type projectile except ex saw. But bombs are unblockable. Im at a loss for anything else not match up specific. His attacks are all fast, good range, lots of tools. Don't get how any one could say not top 5. Also that running joke "he needs them" regarding his resets is untrue. 50 percent off a net 1 bar combos that are super easy.
 

Espio

Kokomo
And I'm saying he really doesn't, especially not to the extent of Stryker.
The only real strings of relevance are back 1,2,2 + 1,2, +1,1 and back 3, 2 which while back 3,2 is armorable the fact that you can stagger it and be at -3 makes that a fairly non-relevant issue, but I digress as it doesn't truly matter at this point.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
kinda depens on YOUR character i have had more trouble with stryker than baraka for sure.
Considering their are only 5 tourney players of each character it also depends on who you face.

I consider Baraka to be bottom five but I definitely think he is above stryker and also above Nightwolf imo. But that's nit picking really.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
You're aware Baraka's are pretty interruptible too right? He still has non-interruptible strings and stagger options that leave him at slight disadavantage. I can list about 20 characters with interruptible strings.

Ex roll toss's armor is good and that's what you're going to use to get out of pressure, not baton sweep.

I can list all the great things for Stryker, but it doesn't really matter...they're both C tier characters at the end of the day....
espio please do not become denfensive. im pretty sure you know what i am and am not aware of to do with baraka. not need to be smart about it.

no the strings that are not used are pretty interruptible, 3*b3, no one should be using this outside whiffing the 3 in footsies imo, 12*b3 the same, b32*3, no one does this. and if u wana made a read on trying to interupt b31 only to eat a b32-chop combo is very unsmartread to make as b31 should be used as punish only as it -11.
also about being left at neg frames, most of the time baraka is left at 0 or + frames apart from f44 at -2 and a blocked safe blade charge.
does ex rolls armor working stop it from being a sluggish move?

cmon man ya know i have no problem with you or saying any char that is better than baraka but imo stryker is 100% not one of them so that i all im saying