Everytime someone says Rain has bad zoning.
Lighting can stuff projectiles, is spammable, and can use Water orb to bring opponent to you in order to do combos. Its anything, BUT slow and unsafe. If you think its unsafe medium range and longer, your doing it wrong.
Lightning isn't a typical projectile. Use it in the same way Sub-Zero and Cyrax use their iceball and net.
Lightning's only advantage is that Nightwolf and Kenshi can't reflect it and Smoke can't parry it. The lightning does 3% of damage, it's slow and unsafe, and it doesn't even track as well as Nightwolf's does. It's hardly a zoning tool.salvificblood said:
Are you referring to punishing blocked Elbow Dash with 1, 2 ~ Shocker or 1, 2, 1 ~ Shocker? Both of those are hit confirmable, which makes them sort of safe, i.e. if you see they are not connecting you can stop the string.
Many people who use Rain alot would like to respectfully disagree. Refer to my last post.
How the hell does Lightning wiff? If hes jumping in on you then you should read that and use his anti air special. Its not terribly unsafe when they block. It IS safe on block. Trust me, I've tried it. They only time they get me is if I do it again, and start avoiding it rather than being a sitting duck, like a smart player would do. If anything you did the move again, they then proceeded to do Superman/ Dash. I never said it was 100% safe, because fast moves like that will catch you.
I never said up close....and he doesn't need more. His offensive/mix-up game is great.
yes your right unlike raiden you can hit him out of his teleport on start up but he can also teleport in mid air for a counter and both recover about the same time making it as useful as raiden's teleport from mid to full screem and for people who like to just wait for you to teleport to punish. . .you can trick them with eh teleport
I use Rain. It's unsafe as hell, and has bad tracking. Against good players, it's not nearly that good. It's really combo filler and occasionally to stuff a predicted projectile. You can't really use it to zone.
I'd say Kenshi is S-tier or very near to it. He does have the tools to stop a rushdown character, it's just the crossups that stuff him. He's like Ermac in the sense that his only answer to a crossup is his uppercut, except Ermac's uppercut has a great hitbox and you can combo off it for 47%, so long as you catch them at the peak of their jump. Kenshi's uppercut is absolute ass, so there's not a damn thing he can do about getting crossed up. He DOES have good pressure strings, a good low starter (along with a very safe overhead to mix it in with), and a decent 50/50, for what little it's worth. He's a lot like Shang in the sense that he needs to play footsies to keep people out, but unlike Shang, he has a much easier time stuffing them once they actually get in.
The hilarious part is that he's one of those characters where I'm like "He does so much damage without ever using a bar of meter, but it's like...he needs it. XD"
Not true at all. Half of what makes Raiden's teleport is how hard it is to predict in some cases. It's difficult to stop on reaction due to how quick it is, so you really need to be watching for it. Even from a safe distance, Rain completely telegraphs his, which makes it a lot easier to stop.
