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Beast3

Beast3

Theres No Escape
Great stuff! The U3 ending in teleport intrigues me, because can't U3 be used as AA? If thats the case then she gets at least 29% from AA which is crazy
 
Eddy Wang

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
L0rdoftheFLY i have some questions.

If the 112 is +19 on block and the Ex Dagger is 19 frames, wouldn't that leave the opponent in 0 frames where he can simply let go block so the dagger would whiff above his head so he can d1 against b11f4 with a 13 frames startup?

also, wouldn't use the u3 as OTG leaving you vulnerable to the 11 frames of the invencibility during the wakeup? What happens if the opponent wakeup attack during the OTG with u3?
 
ryublaze

ryublaze

Noob
Great video again Fly. I never knew you could OTG with U3. Can wake-up attacks still be it?

I did see EMP_SCAR in that one tourney and he has a very solid Skarlet. I'm actually leaning towards the opposite direction about 1, 1, 2 as a blockstring. There were many times where the last hit missed because the opponent was in the air, but if he used 1, 1, 4 he could've comboed into a Red Dash. 1, 1, 4 also has more cancel advantage. I think I posted this in another topic but if the opponent knows how to fight Skarlet, they'll just let go of block and poke out of 1, 1, 2, EX Dagger every time. If they see you Red Dash they can just hold block again.

Btw, I think you confused me with Red Reaper lol. :p
 
Khaotic_xShangx

Khaotic_xShangx

Fear the Skulls
Eddy Wang said:
L0rdoftheFLY i have a question.

If the 112 is +19 on block and the Ex Dagger is 19 frames, wouldn't that leave the opponent in 0 frames where he can simply let go block so the dagger would whiff above his head so he can d1 against b11f4 with a 13 frames startup?
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they can neutral crouch the 112 ex dagger setup but who ever does that. If someone does that, throw in a couple of ex dagger cancel then crossover. That works like a charm. 114 will whiff every time so you are in the same boat if they crouch block you or neutral crouch. 114 has +4 more frames than 112 right?
 
Khaotic_xShangx

Khaotic_xShangx

Fear the Skulls
Good video fly. I have been using these tactics for about a month now especially the 112 ex dagger to b11f4. I tried to tell everyone before that 112 ex dagger hits every crouching opponent so you get the free b11f4 then do another ex dagger because the b11f4 hits every crouching opponent too so you get another b11f4. Just something to think about.
 
Eddy Wang

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Khaotic_xShangx said:
they can neutral crouch the 112 ex dagger setup but who ever does that. If someone does that, throw in a couple of ex dagger cancel then crossover. That works like a charm. 114 will whiff every time so you are in the same boat if they crouch block you or neutral crouch. 114 has +4 more frames than 112 right?
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I think by being neutral because of the dagger, even if can we use the jump cancel or the back dash, you won't be able to block during the dash, and canceling with dashing forward will give him time to poke out, so since its 0 on block the opponent can also armor and destroy your setup imediatly. That is one of the reasons it makes me not use the 112 as block string.
And yes, 114 has more frame advantage, but it will cause the dagger to whiff, that is why most of us go for the slide or En down Slash, if we read they're fuzzy guard on low first.

Crouching against Skarlet kills her blockstring game, but open for more 50/50 options.:)
 
ryublaze

ryublaze

Noob
I don't mean to bash on the 1, 1, 2 or B1, 1, 4, EX Dagger setup but why risk wasting a bar of meter for something that can be poked out of everytime? Meter's important to Skarlet and if you want to take a risk to get another blockstring why not just do neutral Red Dash into 1, 1, 4 or B1, 1, F4?
 
Khaotic_xShangx

Khaotic_xShangx

Fear the Skulls
RedRaptor10 said:
I don't mean to bash on the 1, 1, 2 or B1, 1, 4, EX Dagger setup but why risk wasting a bar of meter? Meter's important to Skarlet and if you want to take a risk to get another blockstring why not just do neutral Red Dash into 1, 1, 4 or B1, 1, F4?
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i get what your saying but dont kabal players burn ex dash then cancel it just to fake out the opponent then end up getting another block string off or throw cause they just sat there. Same thing goes with rain and his ex roundhouse cancel. I think scar got showtime once and cat in casuals with the 112 ex dagger to crossover. I use this too when i see people trying to poke alot. So i get a free jump in to do the f2 string and get most of my bar back plus chip them for 9% to 16% with the slide. It just gives her options but i will throw in a couple of 114 red dash to upslash every now and then.
 
Eddy Wang

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Khaotic_xShangx said:
i get what your saying but dont kabal players burn ex dash then cancel it just to fake out the opponent then end up getting another block string off or throw cause they just sat there. Same thing goes with rain and his ex roundhouse cancel. I think scar got showtime once and cat in casuals with the 112 ex dagger to crossover. I use this too when i see people trying to poke alot. So i get a free jump in to do the f2 string and get most of my bar back plus chip them for 9% to 16% with the slide. It just gives her options but i will throw in a couple of 114 red dash to upslash every now and then.
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peoples tend to poke a lot when you do a pokeable block string or using a lot of naked red dashes:)

What i like most in your analyses is that you can train them to poke a lot to ensure your jip because d1 is -13 ^^
The risky thing, is if you catch a player who plays like Everaldo Smith (my sparring partner) he will keep it steady for a while if he reads your intentions of training them to poke, just to stop the crossover with a d1 combo.
 
ryublaze

ryublaze

Noob
Khaotic_xShangx said:
i get what your saying but dont kabal players burn ex dash then cancel it just to fake out the opponent then end up getting another block string off or throw cause they just sat there. Same thing goes with rain and his ex roundhouse cancel. I think scar got showtime once and cat in casuals with the 112 ex dagger to crossover. I use this too when i see people trying to poke alot. So i get a free jump in to do the f2 string and get most of my bar back plus chip them for 9% to 16% with the slide. It just gives her options but i will throw in a couple of 114 red dash to upslash every now and then.
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You can still crossover after a Red Dash but you'd have less advantage. Technically the 1, 1, 2, EX Dagger jump cancel is not a free jump in as it can be anti-aired but it's a nice option to have. I just feel like the risk isn't worth it when you don't have to burn a bar of meter and just do neutral Red Dash.
 
Somberness

Somberness

Lights
Up 3 is so good. Up3,4 would be better if either close or far dagger could hit on block afterward. It does in the corner so that might be useful. You could even continue the combo after it if you don't throw anything..
Beast3 said:
Great stuff! The U3 ending in teleport intrigues me, because can't U3 be used as AA? If thats the case then she gets at least 29% from AA which is crazy
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Crazy is up3,up3~dagger, you can get over 40% for an anti air. The best combos can be found here in this thread by Ninj (thanks for mention by the way, even though I didn't do much, lol) http://testyourmight.com/threads/pre-video-guide-combo-release-list.17083/
 
AK L0rdoftheFLY

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
Alright so being at 0 at a canceled 112 to ex dagger does not guarantee the 112? I was of the assumption it would hit every time.

Ok my mistake, however. Who is going to let go of block against her? Lol. It's easier said then done I think to let the ex dagger go over your head from that range.

About u3 being an OTG. Maybe I should be more clear. U3 by itself doesn't OTG but if your opponent tries to get up without a wakeup attack the u3 connects on block or hit. The u3 may be vulnerable to a wakeup attack, but so is down dagger. You need to read the situation but if you have them afraid to wakeup, the u3 down dagger will work wonders and might give you 35+ combo.
 
Flagg

Flagg

Noob
Another great video, makes me want to reinvest into her again! Her damage is crazy, U3, U34 teleport, 30% damage??

I swear, she has so many options without looking broken. She is definitely in top 3. People disregarding her are going to get blown up when they are just getting overwhelmed by her.
 
AK L0rdoftheFLY

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
I played about 5 hours with Smargasm yesterday and I only used my main three

1) nightwolf
2) skarlet
3) kabal

Most of my time was spent with skarlet and I was specifically trying to use my tech I spoke about in my video. I used the u3 down dagger and it worked like a charm. Sometimes I got the relaunch and sometimes I got the OTG. I used it sparingly but when I did it, it worked very well.

I also used my block string from 112 red dash 112 ex dc b11f4. And it worked so well while mixing up overheads and sometimes getting f212 string.

This character is nuts...soon kabal is not going to know what hit him. When I go to new your in July I plan on getting casuals with those guys...it will be after EVO but I'll try to get as many of those recorded as possible.
 
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