Who is the better tournament character?

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Ninj vs Death OFFLINE first to 10 should be recorded to really see the tools of both these chicks in action.
After everything is said and done, no matter who wins the ft10, people will see that sonya > skarlett.

or death>ninj or ninj >death. it really doesnt prove much

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I'll believe it when I see it.

wtf man get off his back. he is too polite to say it but you are being a dick. calm yourself and let the man have a life...jees

 

[Tim Static]

Tim Static Tim your the man. But with this thinking all of the cast minus kabal jax and a few others are novelty. Sonya has placed well at tournaments. It just takes a lot to beat the vsm tier. I understand the thoughts she is over hyped but novelty is beneath her IMO. She is a very strong character. I think skarlett hasn't gotten the limelight or exposure yet. When she does she will blow up like Sonya. Like smarrgasm said a lot of people don't even know how to play against her match up wise. Once they do the field levels out, but with Sonya she has so many safe non meter options that's why I give her the edge slightly.

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And that is all very likely, but until it happens, its just speculation man.

 

[IKizzLE]

or death>ninj or ninj >death. it really doesnt prove much

I think you missed the part where it said "tools of both these chicks in action" and "no matter who wins the ft10"

There's a huge difference when talking about moves on forums and seeing them in action at the highest level.

Perfect example is detroits ermac and the use of iAB. Slips talked about a lot on the podcast but now everyone recognizes it after it was put in action, even though Detroit lost.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I think you missed the part where it said "tools of both these chicks in action" and "no matter who wins the ft10"

oh i got ya...yea i skim sometimes. btw you still think i went 0-2 at FR?

 

[IKizzLE]

oh i got ya...yea i skim sometimes. btw you still think i went 0-2 at FR?

lol no.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

lol no.

lol ok...that was bothering me after i heard you say it on ktp. lol. i went 3-2. and i was tired as fuck...ah next time maybe ill win a major like you.

what did it feel like making Chris G give up in grand finals...i couldnt stop laughing my ass off while i watched.

 

[THTB]

Every character has holes in this game or they would be God tier.
Dude, Sonya's holes??
Out of all the characters in the game, her holes are by far the smallest.
If Sonya's holes are gonna keep her out top 5, in comparison, Sektor's craters better keep him out of top 10 discussion forever.

Well no shit everyone has holes, lol, but I'm saying her holes will become more glaring as time goes on, and will have a really big impact as to whether she's top 5 or not.

Having large footsies ranges is huge now (And having solid footsies in general is becoming more and more important by the day), and I think her stubbiness is gonna come back to haunt her later.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

skarlets footsies are very good. air daggers both far and close as well as f43 and dc rd slide make her exceptional in this category.

God NW sucks...lol

 

[MK Peanuts]

wtf man get off his back. he is too polite to say it but you are being a dick. calm yourself and let the man have a life...jees

Fair enough. I don't want to pull the thread off topic more than I already have, so I won't say any more on the matter.

 

[THTB]

skarlets footsies are very good. air daggers both far and close as well as f43 and dc rd slide make her exceptional in this category.

God NW sucks...lol

Angled iaFBs like Sindel's and Skarlet's are massively overlooked. It's like Ermac iaB, only it hits all the way to the floor.

 

[Ninj]

I'll believe it when I see it.

I can't help that I have responsibilities, my love. Saturday would be far easier. But I promise to come next time if it's close enough.

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[Ninj]

skarlets footsies are very good. air daggers both far and close as well as f43 and dc rd slide make her exceptional in this category.

God NW sucks...lol

Down dagger allows Skarlet to never have to commit...and if it hits, it allows for more pressure. Quite a powerful tool, imo.

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[Mr. Mileena]

wtf man get off his back. he is too polite to say it but you are being a dick. calm yourself and let the man have a life...jees

coming from the guy that called out 9479347 people on his podcast...
lol <3

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Angled iaFBs like Sindel's and Skarlet's are massively overlooked. It's like Ermac iaB, only it hits all the way to the floor.

And they both pick up off of the floor no matter what!

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

coming from the guy that called out 9479347 people on his podcast...
lol <3

And I never played any of them

Your next MR MIL!

 

[GhosT]

And that is all very likely, but until it happens, its just speculation man.

I can't argue that. But I see it as more CD Jr reo etc are so good its more a player problem than character problem. I don't think we can keep credit from the Sonya's etc because someone hasn't beaten reo and CD Jr with them. That's a task in itself for any player/ character combo. Take example of Detroit with ermac. Nobody likes ermac as a tournament character but yet he still does well largely in part to his skill I know, but it still shows that character wise this game has decent balance. I guess it just depends how you view it.

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[M2Dave]

L0rdoftheFLY, EX dash xx up slash is slower than you think. If Freddy or Noob is spamming gloves and tackles from the correct range, respectively, you are never punishing either projectile on reaction. Up slash is not even safe on block. Besides, its hitbox is very sloppy. It whiffs on low pokes that lower a character's hitbox. Sonya's EX cartwheel is superior in every way but range.

One of the reasons people think Skarlet is strong is because of 50/50 mix ups when in reality there is no 50/50 mix up between the red slide and the down slash. The down slash can be blocked on reaction, so all you have to do is block low.

And I have no clue why people are comparing Sonya's d+4 xx MS f+1 to Skarlet's d+4 xx red dash. That is an outrageous comparison.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

L0rdoftheFLY, EX dash xx up slash is slower than you think. If Freddy or Noob is spamming gloves and tackles from the correct range, respectively, you are never punishing either projectile on reaction. Up slash is not even safe on block. Besides, its hitbox is very sloppy. It whiffs on low pokes that lower a character's hitbox. Sonya's EX cartwheel is superior in every way but range.

One of the reasons people think Skarlet is strong is because of 50/50 mix ups when in reality there is no 50/50 mix up between the red slide and the down slash. The down slash can be blocked on reaction, so all you have to do is block low.

And I have no clue why people are comparing Sonya's d+4 xx MS f+1 to Skarlet's d+4 xx red dash. That is an outrageous comparison.

ex cartwheel gives people the illusion that she is safe yet skarlet can blow up ex cartwheel on reaction with eh red dash down slash. the opposite is also true. it is safe on block yet so is eh rd slide. on block there is very little difference. If we are measuring tools, and eh rd is used at the right times, it can be used to take more damage than eh cartwheel. the fact is skarlet gets to choose what she wants to do out of eh red dash...that alone should make her better. that choice is HUGE.

the 50/50 is between slide and eh down slash. If you fuzzy guard it, it was a guess...nothing more. eh down slash CANNOT be fuzzy guarded on reaction. its a guess.

 

[Wemfs]

Awesome.

Im not saying she isnt better, im just saying it needs to be proved. JUST DO IT, Ninji!!

I love your sig Tim. So colorful and awesome.

 

[Tim Static]

I love your sig Tim. So colorful and awesome.

Electric Mayhem fuckin rule

I'd say the same about yours if it wasnt fuckin Pennywise. :'(

 

[M2Dave]

ex cartwheel gives people the illusion that she is safe yet skarlet can blow up ex cartwheel on reaction with eh red dash down slash. the opposite is also true. it is safe on block yet so is eh rd slide. on block there is very little difference. If we are measuring tools, and eh rd is used at the right times, it can be used to take more damage than eh cartwheel. the fact is skarlet gets to choose what she wants to do out of eh red dash...that alone should make her better. that choice is HUGE.

the 50/50 is between slide and eh down slash. If you fuzzy guard it, it was a guess...nothing more. eh down slash CANNOT be fuzzy guarded on reaction. its a guess.

The real difference between EX slide and EX cartwheel is that EX cartwheel juggles and EX slide does not.

The choices after EX dash are irrelevant. There is no reason to block low when you see the EX dash animation unless you are about to die. If the Skarlet player wants to waste one bar of meter for 8% of damage, so be it.

You guys are overrating this character to ridiculous proportions. It is simple logic. Old dagger cancels + EX dagger cancels frame traps + everything else she has = top 5. With one aspect removed out of the equation (old dagger cancels), she becomes high mid tier at best, which means Sonya is obviously the better character. d+4 xx MS f+1 alone is better and more brain-dead than anything Skarlet has. Stop deluding yourselves.

 

[IKizzLE]

lol ok...that was bothering me after i heard you say it on ktp. lol. i went 3-2. and i was tired as fuck...ah next time maybe ill win a major like you.

what did it feel like making Chris G give up in grand finals...i couldnt stop laughing my ass off while i watched.

Dude it was disappointing....like just take the ass whooping like a man.
I already had to beat him 5-1 in winners finals....
But its whatever...he also went random select in KoF after Bala dominated him.
Poor sportsman.

 

[IKizzLE]

The real difference between EX slide and EX cartwheel is that EX cartwheel juggles and EX slide does not.

The choices after EX dash are irrelevant. There is no reason to block low when you see the EX dash animation unless you are about to die. If the Skarlet player wants to waste one bar of meter for 8% of damage, so be it.

You guys are overrating this character to ridiculous proportions. It is simple logic. Old dagger cancels + EX dagger cancels frame traps + everything else she has = top 5. With one aspect removed out of the equation (old dagger cancels), she becomes high mid tier at best, which means Sonya is obviously the better character. d+4 xx MS f+1 alone is better and more brain-dead than anything Skarlet has. Stop deluding yourselves.

The people who are underrating d4~MS are the people who haven't experienced how cheap it can be.
Soon enough....

 

[AssassiN]

All I can say to people that voted for Sonya is "wait for it".