i dont believe in the hitting all four shoulder buttons method. someone prove it. im yet to check some of these vids though, in the case someone proved it in one, but that seems unbelievable because the layout for stick players would require them to shift their hand from 4 main attack buttons to 4 buttons that we dont use for anything at all (one button for block only). also that puts any start button command out of the question. something with block is believable though. if youre hitting all 4 shoulder buttons i imagine youre inputting quite a number of commands though as youre hitting fp and fk for the throw input (R1), block, bk (L2 part of using xray) etc so yeah. seems like a pretty confound method to me.