Support for MK1 Supposedly Cancelled

[Vulgar]

Not just power levels but more playstyles, weird chars and shit, we lost that in Injustice 2
No Solaman Grundy
No Arez
No Doomsday
No Lobo
No Manhunter
No Sinestro type chars.

Gonna have to disagree with you there.

Plenty of unorthodox stuff.

Brainiac
Hellboy(Doomsday but better!)
Swamp Thing
Enchantress
Gorilla Grodd.

It was an improvement on I2 in basically every way.

Injustice 1 did have more OP characters tho.

 

[Marlow]

Not just power levels but more playstyles, weird chars and shit, we lost that in Injustice 2
No Solaman Grundy
No Arez
No Doomsday
No Lobo
No Manhunter
No Sinestro type chars.

What are those characters doing that wasn't being done in Injustice 2?

 

[CrimsonShadow]

We gonna say Starfire, Scarecrow, Atom, Robin, Swamp Thing, Blue Beetle and Captain Cold had the same playstyle now?

 

[Marlow]

The character diversity of Injustice 2 by the end was pretty great: https://liquipedia.net/fighters/Injustice_2_Pro_Series/2018/Grand_Finals

So many different characters being used, so many different playstyles.

 

[Trickywizard]

I guess it’s been a while, I just can’t remember why I found injustice 1 fun and Inj2 boring.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

Inj2 just feels awful.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

The character diversity of Injustice 2 by the end was pretty great: https://liquipedia.net/fighters/Injustice_2_Pro_Series/2018/Grand_Finals

So many different characters being used, so many different playstyles.

Yeah, I think we can factually say that Injustice 2 had the biggest number of competitively viable archetypes in an NRS game. The majority of the roster, with the exception of only a few characters, was a serious tournament threat at some point.

 

[LEGEND]

Injustice 2 was lower power level than Injustice 1 and it's unique characters are all lame as hell or boring imo.

Worst NRS game by a country mile.
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For my characters:
Sinestro - Gone, replaced by more one dimensional characters.
Flash: Kinda similar just missing his fun stuff and more unsafe.
GL - absolutely fucking butchered. Everything cool or fun about him was replaced by the most bland shit imaginable.
Superman - Just a weaker, less fun version.

 

[Jynks]

injustice 1 with the infinite unblockable stage interactions.... peak nrs : P

 

[Vulgar]

Injustice 2 was lower power level than Injustice 1 and it's unique characters are all lame as hell or boring imo.

Worst NRS game by a country mile.
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For my characters:
Sinestro - Gone, replaced by more one dimensional characters.
Flash: Kinda similar just missing his fun stuff and more unsafe.
GL - absolutely fucking butchered. Everything cool or fun about him was replaced by the most bland shit imaginable.
Superman - Just a weaker, less fun version.

Gonna have to big disagree with you on Flash.

Flash could still mix you for Hella damage, still had ambiguous cross ups, still had running man cancels, he was a good character.

As far as the power level goes, this was largely what people wanted at the time. After Zod, Batgirl, MMH, Batman, Scorpion of Injustice 1, I feel like a slight toning down was needed. No one enjoyed that shit at the highest possible level.

Meanwhile, I think characters like The Atom, Brainiac, Blue Beetle, Enchantress, The Joker, etc had a lot to offer people wanting more technical characters.

 

[LEGEND]

Gonna have to big disagree with you on Flash.

Flash could still mix you for Hella damage, still had ambiguous cross ups, still had running man cancels, he was a good character.

As far as the power level goes, this was largely what people wanted at the time. After Zod, Batgirl, MMH, Batman, Scorpion of Injustice 1, I feel like a slight toning down was needed. No one enjoyed that shit at the highest possible level.

Meanwhile, I think characters like The Atom, Brainiac, Blue Beetle, Enchantress, The Joker, etc had a lot to offer people wanting more technical characters.

I can give you the last two points

Been awhile since i touched the game but RMS felt stiff as hell compared to Inj 1 and his B2 wasn't nearly as good. I know he was still great tier-wise. Just felt disapointing

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Sinestro - Gone, replaced by more one dimensional characters.

Are we saying that, say, Starfire is more one-dimensional than Sinestro? She does everything: mix, zoning, mobility, pressure, footsies, you name it.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I loved injustice 2, the most fun version of Sub imo.

 

[Trickywizard]

I loved injustice 2, the most fun version of Sub imo.

Injustice Subz was trash

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Injustice Subz was trash

I said most FUN version. You see people on here longingly reflecting on their shitty MK9 or I1 mains.

Buuuut….

He really wasn’t trash. In the corner he gets a free 50/50 after every MB polar puncture restand. He had the best F3 in the game arguably and hit like a truck with the easiest hit confirm-able mid of all time. The gaps between F2 string and ice burst isn’t even that bad, it’s a trade at worst which would be in Sub’s favor. He is hard to zone, does great damage, broke jump ins, good mixups in the corner, excellent corner game obviously, clone fucks up anyone without a projectile for free and is still something to consider for most outside of your Batmans, Ivys, etc.

Sub’s weaknesses is that he has a horrendous back walk speed making it kind of awkward to play footsies sometimes and it’s hard to capitalize on plus frames because of the inconsistent push back on MB DB1. https://testyourmight.com/threads/mb-db1-usability-list.66548/ - which is really fuckin annoying but not a deal breaker at all.

He really wasn’t that bad and is perfectly usable with some patience.

 

[Vulgar]

I said most FUN version. You see people on here longingly reflecting on their shitty MK9 or I1 mains.

Buuuut….

He really wasn’t trash. In the corner he gets a free 50/50 after every MB polar puncture restand. He had the best F3 in the game arguably and hit like a truck with the easiest hit confirm-able mid of all time. The gaps between F2 string and ice burst isn’t even that bad, it’s a trade at worst which would be in Sub’s favor. He is hard to zone, does great damage, broke jump ins, good mixups in the corner, excellent corner game obviously, clone fucks up anyone without a projectile for free and is still something to consider for most outside of your Batmans, Ivys, etc.

Sub’s weaknesses is that he has a horrendous back walk speed making it kind of awkward to play footsies sometimes and it’s hard to capitalize on plus frames because of the inconsistent push back on MB DB1. (https://testyourmight.com/threads/mb-db1-usability-list.66548/)- which is really fuckin annoying but not a deal breaker at all.

He really wasn’t that bad and is perfectly usable with some patience.

Injustice 2 Sub Zero Up Play in the the year of our lord 2025.

You...are the only good Sub Zero. You are hereby exempt from any and all criticism and insults I lob at Sub Zero players from now on.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Injustice 2 Sub Zero Up Play in the the year of our lord 2025.

You...are the only good Sub Zero. You are hereby exempt from any and all criticism and insults I lob at Sub Zero players from now on.

Hey I don’t play MK1 sadly, but I knew my guy back in the day

 

[haketh]

IJ2 Sub sucked but I fucking loved playing him, the B3 J3 J2 B2 B23xCommand Grab combo was so sick

 

[Trickywizard]

I said most FUN version. You see people on here longingly reflecting on their shitty MK9 or I1 mains.

Buuuut….

He really wasn’t trash. In the corner he gets a free 50/50 after every MB polar puncture restand. He had the best F3 in the game arguably and hit like a truck with the easiest hit confirm-able mid of all time. The gaps between F2 string and ice burst isn’t even that bad, it’s a trade at worst which would be in Sub’s favor. He is hard to zone, does great damage, broke jump ins, good mixups in the corner, excellent corner game obviously, clone fucks up anyone without a projectile for free and is still something to consider for most outside of your Batmans, Ivys, etc.

Sub’s weaknesses is that he has a horrendous back walk speed making it kind of awkward to play footsies sometimes and it’s hard to capitalize on plus frames because of the inconsistent push back on MB DB1. https://testyourmight.com/threads/mb-db1-usability-list.66548/ - which is really fuckin annoying but not a deal breaker at all.

He really wasn’t that bad and is perfectly usable with some patience.

Yeah I mained sub and Lao in mk9 and black Adam and sub in injustice

 

[BanTheTesters]

Inj2 just feels awful.

Hard disagree…

And I miss injustice 2..

 

[skahwt]

Bring on a new Injustice. Injustice 2 was a gem and we need another, more perfect vision.

DC Characters > MK Characters.

Injustice 2 is my fav NRS game. The story, presentation, mechanics, and character variety are all top tier.

 

[Trickywizard]

Injustice 2 is my fav NRS game. The story, presentation, mechanics, and character variety are all top tier.

It’s MK4 for me lol

 

[skahwt]

It’s MK4 for me lol

Hey man, MK4 is great. From the hokey arcade endings to the Reptile face-eating fatality, it’s pure art.

 

[Trickywizard]

Hey man, MK4 is great. From the hokey arcade endings to the Reptile face-eating fatality, it’s pure art.

I was being sarcastic, MK4 is trash so is Injustice 2.

 

[skahwt]

Yeah, dude, I got it.