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Conan the Barbarian Kombat Kast today at 12PM CT/1PM ET

Vulgar

Kombatant
Conan looks pretty cool. Unsure if he's my style personally, but it looks like they gave him some pretty strong tools.

Not to mention, his animations look so much better now.

As for the haters, well, it'll be all jokes and memes until he's hitting you for 30% into a restand into a strike/grab mix that there's probably some Kameo to launch from, ending in another re-stand into another guess.

Ggs! Shake my hand, big fan energy.
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
He looks exactly as boring as I was afraid he would be. Sword swingy man. You know shit is ass when things that could be strings are specials, that sword spin looks goofy as fuck.

Even his resurrection is lame. Having to manually set it up and then hope you die? When Jason nearly 10 years ago could revive automatically, and even had the added mechanic of using meter to come back with more health.

His parry is funny at least


And "He's gonna be good" dickriders can kill that noise ahead of time. Hellboy was also a top tier character, but was beyond fucking boring
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
He looks exactly as boring as I was afraid he would be. Sword swingy man. You know shit is ass when things that could be strings are specials, that sword spin looks goofy as fuck.

Even his resurrection is lame. Having to manually set it up and then hope you die? When Jason nearly 10 years ago could revive automatically, and even had the added mechanic of using meter to come back with more health.

His parry is funny at least


And "He's gonna be good" dickriders can kill that noise ahead of time. Hellboy was also a top tier character, but was beyond fucking boring

You're just like a factory of ass takes. It's genuinely impressive.

So let's start:

His sword twirling animations are fluid and clean as fuck. If you pay attention, you can even see his shoulders moving along with how he's spinning his sword.

Ah but damn, you'd have to pay attention.

"Things that could be strings are specials." Quick, no one tell this man about Ashrah. His heart simply couldn't take it.

Sure, Jason had resurrection automatically. Jason also didn't have access to a Fatal Blow. Conan does. Additionally, from the trailer it looks like he gets his resurrection immediately, so it's not like it's this super intense set up move. It's probably going to see plenty of use.

Hellboy a boring character? What an astoundingly ass take. He was up there with Brainiac and Cheetah as one of the most mobile characters. His air mobility created mind games. Dude had a good mid, fast fire ball, grabs, solid damage. There was nothing boring about him.

What's an "exciting" character? MK9 Sektor? Please. Wake me up when he's done doing stale ass staggers and ending every combo into up missile. (Pssst, if you can't tell, this is me being facetious.)



Honk shooo....honk shoo....honk shoooo...

That's my sleep noises.

This is like when you said he had, "baby legs," when they were exactly the same height as just about every other character in the trailer.

Like I get if the character isn't to your taste, but there's no need to be dishonest.
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
You're just like a factory of ass takes. It's genuinely impressive.

So let's start:

His sword twirling animations are fluid and clean as fuck. If you pay attention, you can even see his shoulders moving along with how he's spinning his sword.

Shoulders moving while using his fucking arms is an insanely low bar to even comment on, and just makes this funnier. Go back and look at his charged boot and tell me his animations are fine.

"Things that could be strings are specials." Quick, no one tell this man about Ashrah. His heart simply couldn't take it.
Two things can be true at once. Ashrah has wasted specials just like Conan does.

Sure, Jason had resurrection automatically. Jason also didn't have access to a Fatal Blow. Conan does. Additionally, from the trailer it looks like he gets his resurrection immediately, so it's not like it's this super intense set up move. It's probably going to see plenty of use.
I don't understand your point of Jason not having a Fatal Blow. He has an X-Ray.
And even if it isn't an intense setup move, if you're that low on health and trying to survive you're probably not going to want to sacrifice oki or advantage to set this safety net of a timer up. This isn't something like Ermac's embrace where he can use it to protect his lead, Conan's shit only works when he's about to die. And coming back with 50 health is just lol. Get knocked back full screen where your only options are armor (which doesn't do anything when you die in one hit) or a projectile reflect that RANDOMLY reflects shit.

Hellboy a boring character? What an astoundingly ass take. He was up there with Brainiac and Cheetah as one of the most mobile characters. His air mobility created mind games. Dude had a good mid, fast fire ball, grabs, solid damage. There was nothing boring about him.
See this is the disconnect we're having. Mechanically Hellboy's kit is fine, but as far as him doing unique Hellboy shit he's garbage. He has an absurd access to unbelievable weapons, artifacts, allies and spells. And all he does is jump in the air and shoot a pistol. Its the creativity that holds him back. This is the same issue that Conan has, and the same issue that I thought Ghostface would have, but his kit has actual interesting thought put behind it. Unique things that only make sense from Ghostface.

If this is all Conan can do, I'd take Kotal over him any and every day. He's also a big swingy sword boy, but he also has death beams, multiple totem buffs and can turn into a god damn panther.

This is like when you said he had, "baby legs," when they were exactly the same height as just about every other character in the trailer.
I wasn't talking about the length of his legs lmao

 

Vulgar

Kombatant
Shoulders moving while using his fucking arms is an insanely low bar to even comment on, and just makes this funnier. Go back and look at his charged boot and tell me his animations are fine.



Two things can be true at once. Ashrah has wasted specials just like Conan does.



I don't understand your point of Jason not having a Fatal Blow. He has an X-Ray.
And even if it isn't an intense setup move, if you're that low on health and trying to survive you're probably not going to want to sacrifice oki or advantage to set this safety net of a timer up. This isn't something like Ermac's embrace where he can use it to protect his lead, Conan's shit only works when he's about to die. And coming back with 50 health is just lol. Get knocked back full screen where your only options are armor (which doesn't do anything when you die in one hit) or a projectile reflect that RANDOMLY reflects shit.



See this is the disconnect we're having. Mechanically Hellboy's kit is fine, but as far as him doing unique Hellboy shit he's garbage. He has an absurd access to unbelievable weapons, artifacts, allies and spells. And all he does is jump in the air and shoot a pistol. Its the creativity that holds him back. This is the same issue that Conan has, and the same issue that I thought Ghostface would have, but his kit has actual interesting thought put behind it. Unique things that only make sense from Ghostface.

If this is all Conan can do, I'd take Kotal over him any and every day. He's also a big swingy sword boy, but he also has death beams, multiple totem buffs and can turn into a god damn panther.



I wasn't talking about the length of his legs lmao

More dogshit points but hey, it's what I'm used to.

First off, it wasn't that his shoulders move it was how well it was animated. Same for his gradual knee bending during charge moves, so on and so forth. It's not a, "low bar" to notice and appreciate muscle articulation. The animations are fluid.

His animations are fine. If you look at clips from the film, for example, his win pose is 1-to-1 to how he moves in the movie. Same for many of his other animations. Please remove your bias, I beg you. Or just watch clips from Conan The Barbarian. That punch he does off his parry is nearly identical. What more do you want? To be able to count each individual sweat bead?

Okay, so you're really dense. Jason didn't have access to his X-Ray after a resurrection, because it used up his meter. Now, I want you to apply some basic critical thinking here. A difficult task to be sure, but walk with me.

If Conan has access to a comeback mechanic that doesn't require meter that he can still use, what do you think he could do with it after resurrecting?

Bear in mind, his Fatal Blow is a projectile.

Additionally, in his QA match where the move was used, he also had access to his meter. Something Jason did not. So he could do a jump in on a fireball read and then use an ex move. You know, like he did in the QA matct. Bear in mind, he has a jump attack that is a pop-up, unlike most jump-ins in the game. Go back and look.

Now, with Fatal Blow and meter, do you actually think this comeback mechanic WONT see play? I mean we saw Conan use it in the QA match. I noticed you conveniently left out what his EX parry did.

Like you really just have to think about this stuff in context. I just don't think you think this stuff through very deeply outside of the surface.

No, that is not all Hellboy had or did. If you think that's the case, you didn't play him correctly or at all.

Hellboy had:

Fast mids.
Fast low.
Command grab(that launched)
Anti-Air Grab(also launched)
Fast, cancellable fireball.
A fast, advancing, mid-hitting special that you can change the timing off to make it plus on block.
A low-hitting air jump attack that hit at three different ranges, and was both air dash and back dash cancellable.
4 different buffs in his trait that took the form of an "artifact" he used. And yes, he used Excalibur in his throw. Completely on brand.

He could also walk through fireballs with his trait.

And yeah, his air mobility was nuts. That's where the yomi and execution came in. Now, you might not personally like it, and that's fine.

And Hellboy players used all of these tools. If you think all he did was shoot a gun and jump, you either didn't play Injustice 2 seriously, or you're being deliberately dishonest.

I think it's deliberate dishonesty.

Hellboy was like the WORST example you could have picked, lmfao!

But wait, you say. Kotal Kahn. It's funny you mention him, because a lot of those moves you mentioned took up equippable slots. Whereas Conan has access to his full kit, no custom variations needed.

And even the width of his thigh was roughly on par or wider than anyone he was standing next to. I know this because after you said something, I went back and looked. Sure, he's top heavy, but so was Arnold in the movie.

Just put down the h8'rade. It's making you look ridiculous.
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
How did you assume I was upset? My post didn't convey anything remotely close to being negative or hateful. How do you know if I'm excited?

Hop off my sack man
Cap.

But nah. You are excited. I am too.

I'm also excited to know why you're ducking me, bestie.