Joker - MadMan - Variation 03

[appo]

Joker - Variation 03 - Mad Man
Thread for his third Tournament Variation (Collecting all Combos Posted in this Thread in the Startpost for a better Overview)
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Mad Man Variation (3)
Kapow - (BF2)
Getting Lit - (DB3)
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MIDSCREEN COMBO
Inputs	Damage	Notes
1,2,1~Dash~2,1~BF2	261	High Starter
2,1~BF2(AMP)~Dash~2,1~BF2	307	High Starter / 1 Bar
F2,1~BF2(AMP), 2,1~BF2	323	High Starter / 1 Bar
1,2,1~Dash~2,1~BF2 AMP, Dash~ F1,4,2	346	High Starter / 1 Bar
F2,1~BF2 AMP, 1,2,1, Dash~F21~BF2	351	High Starter / 1 Bar
1,2,1~Dash~2,1~BF2 AMP, Dash~ F1,4,~BF2	361	High Starter / 1 Bar
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F3~BF2 AMP, 121, dash~F21~BF2	317	Mid Starter / 1 Bar
F1,4~BF2(AMP), 2,1~BF2	323	Mid Starter / 1 Bar
F1,4~BF2, Jump 2, f1,4~BF2	339	Mid Starter / 1 Bar
F1,4~BF2 AMP, 1,2,1, Dash~F21~BF2	351	Mid Starter / 1 Bar
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B3,2~BF2(AMP), 2,1~BF2	304	Low Starter / 1 Bar
B3,2~BF2 AMP, 121, dash~F21~BF2	332	Low Starter / 1 Bar
MIDSCREEN KRUSHING BLOW
Inputs	Damage	Notes
D2 KB~ F2,1~BF2(AMP), D2	411	KB=Krushing Blow / 1 Bar
D2 KB ~ Dash, 2,1~BF2(AMP), Dash~F1,4~BF2	453	KB=Krushing Blow / 1 Bar
F2,1,2 KB~ F2,1~BF2(AMP), D2	410	KB=Krushing Blow / 1 Bar
F2,1,2 KB~ Dash~2,1~BF2(AMP), D2	424	KB=Krushing Blow / 1 Bar
F2,1,2 KB ~ Dash, 2,1~BF2(AMP), F1,4~BF2	448	KB=Krushing Blow / 1 Bar
CORNER COMBO
Inputs	Damage	Notes
1,2,1~ 4~2,1~BF2 (AMP), F1,4~BF2	404	High Starter / 1Bar

 

[John Grizzly]

One bar corner:

1,2,1, 4, 2,1xxB,F2 MB, F1,4xxB,F2 - 404.84

 

[Mandolore1123]

Mid/high starter 351 damage 1 bar
F14/F21~BF2 AMP, 121, dash~F21~BF2

 

[Darth Mao]

1 bar corner:
f3,2 KB; bf2 MB; 4; 121; f142
418.70 dmg

f3,2 KB; bf2 MB; 4; 121; f21~bf4
423.53 dmg

f3,2 KB; bf2 MB; 4; 121; f14~FB
564.75

 

[appo]

Mid/high starter 351 damage 1 bar
F14/F21~BF2 AMP, 121, dash~F21~BF2

Nice Damage for a Midscreen Combo.
It works with B3,2/Low Starter and F3/Mid too

B3,2~BF2 AMP, 121, dash~F21~BF2
332 Damage /1Bar

F3~BF2 AMP, 121, dash~F21~BF2
317 Damage /1Bar

 

[appo]

Some stuff from Rooflemonger

Video Covers all 3 Variation, all notations in the VIdeo Description.

Here some "highlights" (More in the Video)

Midscreen

Mid Starter / 1Bar / 339.78 Damage
F1,4~BF2, Jump 2, f1,4~BF2

High Starter / 1Bar / 361 Damage
1,2,1~Dash~2,1~BF2 AMP, Dash~ F1,4,~BF2
When you want your opponent next to you after the combo, end it with F1,4,2 instead of the BF2 for / 346 Damage

 

[I AmTheNight 89]

New optimal

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1222650687160553473

 

[I AmTheNight 89]

New optimal

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1222650687160553473

374 midscreen 1 bar no kb or fb

 

[rainuS]

Thank you for posting, easy damage easy combo.

 

[appo]

New optimal

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1222650687160553473

hmm cant get the last bf2 so it seems i do something wrong.
F1,4~BF2 (AMP),Forward Jump2,~1,2,1, Dash F1,4~BF2
right? or did i missed something

can you do me a favor while you are on it.
since FB Cancel allows for extended combos can you try F1,4~FB/Cancel~F1,4 and the rest of your combo to see how much damage you get out of it?

since i never touched johnny i dont know if the fatal blowb cancel is a one time thing like when it hits but when not it allows for some nice combo extensions.

 

[DeftMonk]

I might swap to this variation...some of the bnbs im doing in 2nd one are too execution heavy and shit making me mad. Might go to youtube see if people came up with easier ones.

 

[appo]

Midscreen 2 Bars + Fatal Blow Cancel - 450Damage
https://www.reddit.com/r/MortalKombat/comments/ewakdf
Same Midscreen Combo with 390 Damage without the FB Cancel but 2 Bars
F2,1~BF2(AMP). Dash, D2, D1~BF2(AMP), Dash, F1,4~BF2

I might swap to this variation...some of the bnbs im doing in 2nd one are too execution heavy and shit making me mad. Might go to youtube see if people came up with easier ones.

Havent looked into the other Variations so far beside of the Combat Cast but you get some tricky hard stuff here too even tho it seems overall V3 is the go to Damage Variation. He has some good Midscreen Combos for one Bar.

 

[John Grizzly]

since i never touched johnny i dont know if the fatal blowb cancel is a one time thing like when it hits but when not it allows for some nice combo extensions.

As long as your Fatal Blow is ready, you can always use the cancel. Once you use it, you have to wait for the cooldown to end, though. Potentially, you can just keep doing it as long as you wait long enough for the cooldown to end. It's possible to do it several times per round, just not likely.

 

[Mandolore1123]

iirc I saw someone do a D2 combo off the BF2 AMP.
Something like: F21~BF2 AMP, FF, D2, D1~BF2 for 32% and safe 27% if they breakaway.

 

[freerf245]

Anyone find any use for the gas cannister? Seems pretty meh to me.

 

[appo]

As long as your Fatal Blow is ready, you can always use the cancel. Once you use it, you have to wait for the cooldown to end, though. Potentially, you can just keep doing it as long as you wait long enough for the cooldown to end. It's possible to do it several times per round, just not likely.

played some matches yesterday and found it out. based on the lenght of his combos assuming people dont break out it just takes 3 sek afterwards to recharge so it might be something we see more than one time per round in the future.

iirc I saw someone do a D2 combo off the BF2 AMP.
Something like: F21~BF2 AMP, FF, D2, D1~BF2 for 32% and safe 27% if they breakaway.

yeah, i posted a link to a video from someone doing it and you get much more then 32% out of it.
2 posts above yours.

Anyone find any use for the gas cannister? Seems pretty meh to me.

beside of catching people off guard with it on block as a ender with the amp version...not sure. on the first glance itseems more like something you want to use in the corner to make them jump/panic.

 

[Hellbringer]

Anyone find any use for the gas cannister? Seems pretty meh to me.

It has a great brutality

 

[REYTHEGREAT]

Anyone find any use for the gas cannister? Seems pretty meh to me.

i use it in the corner. End your combos with F14, gasoline

 

[freerf245]

i use it in the corner. End your combos with F14, gasoline

Can’t they just block and punish?

 

[kevkopdx]

In the corner, this is easier than one of the combos you have listed and does more damage: f3,2kb,~bf2mb, 121, f14~bf2
425.94

 

[appo]

In the corner, this is easier than one of the combos you have listed and does more damage: f3,2kb,~bf2mb, 121, f14~bf2
425.94

the combo you listed does 393 Damage. Either you missed something or there is a difference for your platform. Which System do you play on?

Can’t they just block and punish?

Block what? The Flames itself? They are unblockable.

 

[kevkopdx]

the combo you listed does 393 Damage. Either you missed something or there is a difference for your platform. Which System

That’s weird, I’m on Xbox, just tried it again and got the same number... tried your other combos and they match your damage so I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong here lol

 

[appo]

That’s weird, I’m on Xbox, just tried it again and got the same number... tried your other combos and they match your damage so I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong here lol

the same number you posted already or the one i posted? maybe something is missing in the listed combo notations or....there is a difference in the versions. i am on pc.


edit- i know the issue. you made the same mistake i did in the sindel thread back then :3
you enabled easy crushing blow in the training menü which leads to the F3,2 doing the crushing blow even on hit of the F3 while it actually just activates when the F3 whiffs and the second hit connects. you can check that in the movelist when you go to the F3,2 description.
due to that your damage output is highter in trainingsmode but its not possible in a real match.

 

[freerf245]

the combo you listed does 393 Damage. Either you missed something or there is a difference for your platform. Which System do you play on?


Block what? The Flames itself? They are unblockable.

When he drops the match its a low attack thats -22 on block.

 

[appo]

1 bar corner:
f3,2 KB; bf2 MB; 4; 121; f412
418.70 dmg

f3,2 KB; bf2 MB; 4; 121; f21~bf4
423.53 dmg

f3,2 KB; bf2 MB; 4; 121; f41~FB
564.75

can you elaborate something for me? F41 doesnt exist, just check your combos out right now so...what do you mean instead?