Don't bother timing your wakeup options even online, here is a better way to do it

[Deleted member 35141]

Im not really seeing a difference here, some people it will work for and others it wont. If I did this on my tv it would never work as for my monitor with nearly no delay is works easily

 

[Eddy Wang]

Im not really seeing a difference here, some people it will work for and others it wont. If I did this on my tv it would never work as for my monitor with nearly no delay is works easily

what happens when you play online with noticeable lag?

 

[Eddy Wang]

I think what @Under_The_Mayo is saying is tapping the button as soon as your character starts moving will also work, because that's the normal timing for getup attacks. You don't have to wait for that particular frame in the tutorial to input.

i'm going to test this method as well when i'm home

 

[JBeezYBabY]

So let me get this straight....as soon as you hit the floor from a knockdown, you start holding the buttons to wakeup for it to come out once the window is active?

Does the length button affect it at all? Ya know, the long, medium, or short input window option.

 

[Eddy Wang]

So let me get this straight....as soon as you hit the floor from a knockdown, you start holding the buttons to wakeup for it to come out once the window is active?

Does the length button affect it at all? Ya know, the long, medium, or short input window option.

no, as soon as your character is rising

 

[JBeezYBabY]

no, as soon as your character is rising

Ok. I'll give it a try because wakeups in this game are fucking stupid w/ these botches/ Hopefully this helps me. But regardless, appreciate you, sir. Righteous

 

[Deleted member 35141]

what happens when you play online with noticeable lag?

I guess I have good internet the lag hasnt effected me much lol.
My perspective may be alittle different as the first year MKX was out I had a tv with 150+ delay no game mode and internet that was lucky to hit 2 up 1 down as I lived in a area with shitty internet companies for that year

 

[Ehndur]

@Eddy Wang I'm testing this and correct me if I'm wrong, or if I've misunderstood your video, but this has nothing to do with "holding" the button. It's about hitting the buttons at the early point of the input window. You're hitting it and holding it to wait for the wakeup to come out. But if you hit it with the same time and RELEASE the buttons, the wakeup still come out at the same time after waiting. So really, you're just demonstrating the right input timing of a wakeup, not a trick about holding.

I think I'm joining @Under_The_Mayo on that, but correct me if I'm wrong. If you hold the inputs before the wake-up timing window, you won't get anything, and if you hold it during the window, it's just similar to pressing the inputs once. I only tested it in training mode with online input delay, but I don't think it matters. If you miss the window, input delay or not, you won't get the wake-up, even if you hold the buttons.

 

[Eddy Wang]

I think I'm joining @Under_The_Mayo on that, but correct me if I'm wrong. If you hold the inputs before the wake-up timing window, you won't get anything, and if you hold it during the window, it's just similar to pressing the inputs once. I only tested it in training mode with online input delay, but I don't think it matters. If you miss the window, input delay or not, you won't get the wake-up, even if you hold the buttons.

i will run the same kind of test once i'm home. and its not when character is knocked down, its as soon as your character starts rising.

 

[santanabar]

@Eddy Wang I'm testing this and correct me if I'm wrong, or if I've misunderstood your video, but this has nothing to do with "holding" the button. It's about hitting the buttons at the early point of the input window. You're hitting it and holding it to wait for the wakeup to come out. But if you hit it with the same time and RELEASE the buttons, the wakeup still come out at the same time after waiting. So really, you're just demonstrating the right input timing of a wakeup, not a trick about holding.

Exactly, unfortunately you still need to time the input for wakeup rolls. You do it too early = delayed wakeup.
My main issue is that you can mash u2/u3, but you can't mash roll because you also get a delayed wakeup.

 

[Raidenwins]

So basically just hold down the button combination for the wakeup for it to come out.
This works with rolls u2, u3, everything.

I don't know about rolls, but you can also mash out wake-ups. Just hold Up and mash on 2 or 3. It works very consistently for me.

 

[Bucketfeet]

Holy crap, could never do wake up rolls.... gonna try this tonight, if this works, THANK YOU!

 

[VSC_Supreme]

I have been doing this since day 1 because I thought it was the way it was supposed to be done lol

Thanks for the clarification and video tho

 

[Eldriken]

Eddy, you're the MVP, my guy. Seriously. Thank you for all of your contributions. You've been knocking it out of the park whether it's Skarlet tech or stuff like this.

 

[Groove Heaven]

Holy shit how did I not know this? Awesome stuff since wakeups have such a small input window in this game.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

i will run the same kind of test once i'm home. and its not when character is knocked down, its as soon as your character starts rising.

Yes, exactly. But that's just the appropriate wakeup input timing. You don't have to hold the buttons to make this work. There's a window for inputting wakeups. You can input it at the beginning, middle, or end. You're hitting it at the beginning and holding the buttons, but holding them doesn't affect it at all. Just tapping it causes the same effect. Have you been able to check it yet?

 

[SaltShaker]

Yes, exactly. But that's just the appropriate wakeup input timing. You don't have to hold the buttons to make this work. There's a window for inputting wakeups. You can input it at the beginning, middle, or end. You're hitting it at the beginning and holding the buttons, but holding them doesn't affect it at all. Just tapping it causes the same effect. Have you been able to check it yet?

If I'm understanding this right, I think the difference is, say you miss the window for the beginning (first) input. Normally you'll stand there like a doof and get combo'd when you wanted to roll. With this, even though you missed it, you're holding it down so by the time you reach the "middle" input window, it is activated and you get the roll you wanted.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

If I'm understanding this right, I think the difference is, say you miss the window for the beginning (first) input. Normally you'll stand there like a doof and get combo'd when you wanted to roll. With this, even though you missed it, you're holding it down so by the time you reach the "middle" input window, it is activated and you get the roll you wanted.

No, because holding it literally does nothing. If you hit it before the beginning of the window, holding it will not activate it. If you hit it after the window, holding it will not activate it. You just have to hit it in the window, and it will activate. Holding it does nothing.

 

[Ehndur]

If I'm understanding this right, I think the difference is, say you miss the window for the beginning (first) input. Normally you'll stand there like a doof and get combo'd when you wanted to roll. With this, even though you missed it, you're holding it down so by the time you reach the "middle" input window, it is activated and you get the roll you wanted.

There is no gap between early, middle and late timing. This is just an amount of frame. If you input it frame 1, wake-up will come out, holding or tapping does not influence that. Same goes if you input on the last frame. And if you input it even 1 frame too early, it just won't work, nothing's gonna change that.

 

[SaltShaker]

No, because holding it literally does nothing. If you hit it before the beginning of the window, holding it will not activate it. If you hit it after the window, holding it will not activate it. You just have to hit it in the window, and it will activate. Holding it does nothing.

There is no gap between early, middle and late timing. This is just an amount of frame. If you input it frame 1, wake-up will come out, holding or tapping does not influence that. Same goes if you input on the last frame. And if you input it even 1 frame too early, it just won't work, nothing's gonna change that.

 

[ExpectFlames]

K&M referenced this as frame buffering.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Yes, exactly. But that's just the appropriate wakeup input timing. You don't have to hold the buttons to make this work. There's a window for inputting wakeups. You can input it at the beginning, middle, or end. You're hitting it at the beginning and holding the buttons, but holding them doesn't affect it at all. Just tapping it causes the same effect. Have you been able to check it yet?

Not yet, just arrived at home and starting my console, will definitely check it out bro.

 

[Eddy Wang]

@Eddy Wang I'm testing this and correct me if I'm wrong, or if I've misunderstood your video, but this has nothing to do with "holding" the button. It's about hitting the buttons at the early point of the input window. You're hitting it and holding it to wait for the wakeup to come out. But if you hit it with the same time and RELEASE the buttons, the wakeup still come out at the same time after waiting. So really, you're just demonstrating the right input timing of a wakeup, not a trick about holding.

This definitely works and it seems to be the correct way of doing it, so what happens is the input window its much bigger than just what they've shown in the tutorial, or by the time the freeze the window in the tutorial it might be the latest possible window to activate a wakeup.
Thanks for cleaning that up, just really hope after this no one cries about wakeups anymore.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

This definitely works and it seems to be the correct way of doing it, so what happens is the input window its much bigger than just what they've shown in the tutorial, or by the time the freeze the window in the tutorial it might be the latest possible window to activate a wakeup.
Thanks for cleaning that up, just really hope after this no one cries about wakeups anymore.

Yeah my way of doing it has been a double tap. If im early, i get the second one in the window.

 

[Bucketfeet]

So OP's method has helped me tremendously. Thank you for posting this!