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'I'd Have These Extremely Graphic Dreams': What It's Like To Work On Ultra-Violent Games Like Mortal Kombat 11

Scyther

Mortal Kombat-phile
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I've seen kids who are better than me at maths get diagnosed with "dyscalculia". I've also seen teenagers who are plain, simple spoiled bullies get diagnosed with "attention deficit disorder". Oh, and there's this kid who has behavioural problems but ZERO writing/reading/speaking problems who is seeing a logopedist, and his mother actually asked me why (I said it's probably because the logopedist needs money). Another situation was of a kid who was diagnosed with all of these psychological problems, and one whole year later the psychologist came and told the mother "I was wrong. He lied all this time".

And people hold to that so much. "I'm autistic/ADD/anything so I don't have to do this or that".

Meanwhile, if someone really happens to suffer from one of those problems, good luck for them, because how are people going to believe it when half of the others fake it due to corrupted or plain lazy psychologists?

And hey, do you honestly believe watching a disturbing photo is actually comparable to experiencing a traumatic event in real life?
Ok
 

Lun

proud TERF!

I'm glad we got to an understanding. It may probably sound presuntuous of me (I'm no psychologist), but I say anyone with common sense knows that you don't get PTSD by watching creepy pictures. And, even if you're a special type of overly sensitive person, you'd just quit that job, not look for MORE of those pictures even if your job says so.
 
35.
I've seen kids who are better than me at maths get diagnosed with "dyscalculia". I've also seen teenagers who are plain, simple spoiled bullies get diagnosed with "attention deficit disorder". Oh, and there's this kid who has behavioural problems but ZERO writing/reading/speaking problems who is seeing a logopedist, and his mother actually asked me why (I said it's probably because the logopedist needs money). Another situation was of a kid who was diagnosed with all of these psychological problems, and one whole year later the psychologist came and told the mother "I was wrong. He lied all this time".

And people hold to that so much. "I'm autistic/ADD/anything so I don't have to do this or that".

Meanwhile, if someone really happens to suffer from one of those problems, good luck for them, because how are people going to believe it when half of the others fake it due to corrupted or plain lazy psychologists?

And hey, do you honestly believe watching a disturbing photo is actually comparable to experiencing a traumatic event in real life?
Interestingly, I was chatting with my COO some months back about the younger generation, and we both can't believe the level of anxiety the generation displays over very simple things.
 

Scyther

Mortal Kombat-phile
I'm glad we got to an understanding. It may probably sound presuntuous of me (I'm no psychologist), but I say anyone with common sense knows that you don't get PTSD by watching creepy pictures. And, even if you're a special type of overly sensitive person, you'd just quit that job, not look for MORE of those pictures even if your job says so.
Oh, we got to an understanding, definitely. Probably not the one you're thinking of, though.

Either way, have a good one.
 
Also, MK needs a No Blood option so everyone can enjoy. Nobody cares for over the top violence anymore. We're all here for gameplay and story.
Other games in the past have had it. I want to say Mortal Kombat XL did. I don't see a reason why the option shouldn't be present.
 

Lun

proud TERF!
Oh, we got to an understanding, definitely. Probably not the one you're thinking of, though.

Either way, have a good one.

You know, when I bring you a valid counter-argument and you don't, even if you act all knowingly and dismissive, you actually didn't demonstrate anything.

I'll just hope you are not one of THOSE kids who get diagnosed with bullshit and use that as a "weapon".
 

stokedAF

casual kahnage
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind this being the last Mortal Kombat. The new generation of devs are laughable. They don’t have a campy bone in their body and are offended at everything. I don’t think I would trust them at all in 4 years.
 

Lun

proud TERF!
Interestingly, I was chatting with my COO some months back about the younger generation, and we both can't believe the level of anxiety the generation displays over very simple things.
I'd rather say that's a complex matter related to the current society we live in. Way I see it, anxiety is our brain tilting because they're dealing with a lingering danger that's not the normal danger we can fight with a flight-or-fight response.

On the other hand, however, you have NO IDEA how spoiled some teenagers are. Absolutely no idea. We're talking a level of "did you just steal 1,7k from daddy's bank account to pay your microtransactions? I guess I'll buy you a motorbike and pretend it wasn't you even when the police told me it was you".
 

mn_tercercine

you can call me blue cheese, because I am DRESSING
The thing that sucks is that they've spent hours coming up with those fatalities and I got bored with them after a week. I still haven't unlocked all of them.
I have a hard time believing anyone spent a large amount of time on Geras' first fatality. Why does he uppercut their tit???
 

Scyther

Mortal Kombat-phile
You know, when I bring you a valid counter-argument and you don't, even if you act all knowingly and dismissive, you actually didn't demonstrate anything.

I'll just hope you are not one of THOSE kids who get diagnosed with bullshit and use that as a "weapon".
Yeah, that's exactly why I've chosen not to engage with you further. At this point, I don't need to demonstrate anything to you, nor dismiss you. I only need to acknowledge what you wrote and move on.

So.....bye.
 

Lun

proud TERF!
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind this being the last Mortal Kombat. The new generation of devs are laughable. They don’t have a campy bone in their body
In their defense: Cetrion becoming as big as the Earth and firing her lazor? And Shao Kahn's "I'mma hammer you so hard your head'll come outta ur butt"?
 

Lun

proud TERF!
Yeah, that's exactly why I've chosen not to engage with you further. At this point, I don't need to demonstrate anything to you, nor dismiss you. I only need to acknowledge what you wrote and move on.

So.....bye.
Well, that just sounds like you don't have a valid rebuke to my argument. But I commend you on stepping away from the discussion in a civil way, instead of trying to come up with anything to have the last word. Shows a certain maturity that I myself don't have.
 
I'd rather say that's a complex matter related to the current society we live in. Way I see it, anxiety is our brain tilting because they're dealing with a lingering danger that's not the normal danger we can fight with a flight-or-fight response.

On the other hand, however, you have NO IDEA how spoiled some teenagers are. Absolutely no idea. We're talking a level of "did you just steal 1,7k from daddy's bank account to pay your microtransactions? I guess I'll buy you a motorbike and pretend it wasn't you even when the police told me it was you".
Ha, don't get me started on the society we live in today. I won't shut up!

In terms of spoiled teenagers, I actually do know. Believe me.
 

stokedAF

casual kahnage
In their defense: Cetrion becoming as big as the Earth and firing her lazor? And Shao Kahn's "I'mma hammer you so hard your head'll come outta ur butt"?
That one chick designing the fatalities seems pretty cool and creative. Then you have people being butthurt and crying to kotaku about their dreams. I’m scared about what that ratio will be in 4 years lol. These younger devs, I can’t take them seriously and it’s just how they were raised. It’s a generational thing. Those of use that grew up with camp have a different mindset. I’d rather mk end on a good note then get ruined by social engineering.
 
I'm glad we got to an understanding. It may probably sound presuntuous of me (I'm no psychologist), but I say anyone with common sense knows that you don't get PTSD by watching creepy pictures. And, even if you're a special type of overly sensitive person, you'd just quit that job, not look for MORE of those pictures even if your job says so.
they were not talkin about "creepy pictures" but watching actual hangings tio make this video game.
 

Xentex

Noob
I know a lady who works in the morgue. She does autopsies all the time. That strikes me as some sick and repulsive shit. I remember her telling me about examining the lower half of a naked female body recovered from a dumpster. Unsurprisingly, evidence of sexual intercourse with multiple persons was found. Upper half of the body was never found. I wouldn't want to do that kind of shit. So I don't.

I know a variety of thoracic surgeons. They cut people open a couple times a day on average. Bone saws, scalpels, sticking your hands into a living person's guts. I can't imagine doing that.

I choose not to do things that I'm not suited for. I sometimes misjudge. When I do, I recognize that as a personal failure, not somebody else's failure.
 

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
Lead Moderator
I know a lady who works in the morgue. She does autopsies all the time. That strikes me as some sick and repulsive shit. I remember her telling me about examining the lower half of a naked female body recovered from a dumpster. Unsurprisingly, evidence of sexual intercourse with multiple persons was found. Upper half of the body was never found. I wouldn't want to do that kind of shit. So I don't.

I know a variety of thoracic surgeons. They cut people open a couple times a day on average. Bone saws, scalpels, sticking your hands into a living person's guts. I can't imagine doing that.

I choose not to do things that I'm not suited for. I sometimes misjudge. When I do, I recognize that as a personal failure, not somebody else's failure.
I was thinking that on my way home. Doctors, mainly surgeons, work in people's insides all day, they're often covered with blood too, and I rarely see them talk about any PTSD from doing their job.
 
I choose not to do things that I'm not suited for. I sometimes misjudge. When I do, I recognize that as a personal failure, not somebody else's failure.
It's not a personal failure, but a personal learning experience and chance for growth. You've identified a limitation of your own, and know to move on from it. That's a good thing.

I also couldn't do the work your friend does.
 
I know a lady who works in the morgue. She does autopsies all the time. That strikes me as some sick and repulsive shit. I remember her telling me about examining the lower half of a naked female body recovered from a dumpster. Unsurprisingly, evidence of sexual intercourse with multiple persons was found. Upper half of the body was never found. I wouldn't want to do that kind of shit. So I don't.

I know a variety of thoracic surgeons. They cut people open a couple times a day on average. Bone saws, scalpels, sticking your hands into a living person's guts. I can't imagine doing that.

I choose not to do things that I'm not suited for. I sometimes misjudge. When I do, I recognize that as a personal failure, not somebody else's failure.
people in jobs like that get prepared for stuff like that in almost a decade of education and can call supervision if they want to. The exact problem here IS that people who just want to make a video game and studied that are expected to expose themselves to pictures of real life violence daily without any preparation or supervision, and apparently under high pressure.