Does Scorpion’s teleport drive anyone else mad?

[Inzzane_79]

okay than let's break it down maybe im missing something. scorp teleports->does attack->you attack->you get comboed. k next time you block. he cancles the port and grabs you. how is that reactable?

All grabs are high so maybe ducking helps?

 

[Eddy Wang]

I have footage of players reacting to it lol. But ooooooookkkkkkk

Nah, they definitely no good, you should go play a good scorpion player, which makes his teleport "unreactable".

 

[Hor_PeT]

If anyone is using TP cancel into TP you should be eating their lunch dude.

In mkx I did it it was so much fun lol. But only when we played after few drinks with my friends.

 

[Eddy Wang]

i didn't said it makes him broken. it's just a coinflip at anytime during neutral. maybe if you explained to me why it's not a 50/50 i could start to deal with it.
and yes it costs meter but metermamagment is not that important. he gets the meter back after a grab.

almost if not every character has a 7f combo starter, its really not a coin flip at all.

 

[magandi]

All grabs are high so maybe ducking helps?

thanks finally a serious answer. but his teleattack is a mid so i have to block. which makes me vulnerable to grabs again. which makes it a 50/50.

 

[Hor_PeT]

What is the suggestion of the nerf everybody wants?
No cancel? Ok he still has searing rage variation.
No amp on block? Ok he still has everything which makes him strong character but punishing teleport does not require practice/extra stress lol.

I would be fine with both of them - it does not affect high level play where the true strenght of the char really matters.
I would not play differently at all with searing rage - on my casual level either.

But we have one less variation of the char.
And V2 is simply not as practical in certain match ups as V1- less competitive.

Eddy: a recommend you to try him besides Skarlet. He is good in neutral too and not so far from Ninjutsu (I think a bit better). You can get lot of throws just from other threat instead of mkx F2.

 

[magandi]

idk nerfs are not necesarry. i just want a more in depth opinon from people who defend his design.

 

[OutworldKeith]

no one can react to the start up and the amp teleport is NOT the problem. why is that so hard to get? i'm talking about the cancle which is a 50/50.

Reads and reactions bro. You don’t lose anything staying patient. If he lets it rip you get a full combo punish. If he cancels it’s up to who makes the better reads.

If the scorpion player is any good he’ll condition you with throws to make you press buttons. After you get tired of being thrown he’ll whiff punish your buttons.

 

[OutworldKeith]

Nah, they definitely no good, you should go play a good scorpion player, which makes his teleport "unreactable".

Y’all must be playing online only or something lol. If you can react to low pokes in footsies range you can react to a 23f TP.

 

[OutworldKeith]

idk nerfs are not necesarry. i just want a more in depth opinon from people who defend his design.

The bottom line is you’re playing against scrubs. Any Scorp player worth his salt won’t just throw out TP to mount an offense. TP cancel gets him in for free, but then what? He’s not a rush down type, he’s more of a mid range whiff punisher.

 

[Shirakani]

I really want to see this guy play a good Reborn user... He'll be screaming for teleport to be removed from the game soon.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Eddy: a recommend you to try him besides Skarlet. He is good in neutral too and not so far from Ninjutsu (I think a bit better). You can get lot of throws just from other threat instead of mkx F2.

What you're forgetting is that every single MK11 player has a pocket scorpion, i'm no exception

 

[OutworldKeith]

I really want to see this guy play a good Reborn user... He'll be screaming for teleport to be removed from the game soon.

I am a good reborn user. Me and my sparring partner run the Subz/Scorp MU all the time. I use him and play against him.

You want him to use up his defense meters then you can be as aggressive as you want. It’s not a 50/50 it’s not hard to make reads and react.

Y’all are crying about a TP cancel with no guaranteed setups or plus frames lmao.

 

[Hor_PeT]

The bottom line is you’re playing against scrubs. Any Scorp player worth his salt won’t just throw out TP to mount an offense. TP cancel gets him in for free, but then what? He’s not a rush down type, he’s more of a mid range whiff punisher.

I agree with that.
However in certain matchups it can be better... where difficult to get into even footsie range.. or where sub D1 into F32 lol.

I did not play the cancel version for real (just messed with him a bit) but I would primarily use it first to make B2 safe as a hitconfirm (e.g. into away cancel).

In general I dont want to skip neutral where I want to play.

As it costs def meter it is just fine.

For whiff punish the regular tele is pretty good.

 

[Hor_PeT]

What you're forgetting is that every single MK11 player has a pocket scorpion, i'm no exception

I did not know about that good to hear.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Y’all must be playing online only or something lol. If you can react to low pokes in footsies range you can react to a 23f TP.

i was being sarcastic bro lmao

 

[OutworldKeith]

I agree with that.
However in certain matchups it can be better... where difficult to get into even footsie range.. or where sub D1 into F32 lol.

I did not play the cancel version for real (just messed with him a bit) but I would primarily use it first to make B2 safe as a hitconfirm (e.g. into away cancel).

In general I dont want to skip neutral where I want to play.

As it costs def meter it is just fine.

For whiff punish the regular tele is pretty good.

I use b2 strictly for far whiff punishing. For example Skarlet’s u3.

Only thing you have to worry about when Scorp gets close is f3 and his options off of it. Most of these dudes have to be getting mopped by Sonya and Erron Black players lol.

 

[magandi]

you are talking about reads but when i read a teleport i have to guess between cancle or attack. isn't that a 50/50? or is there a guaranteed way to deal with it when i know it's coming? i know scrubs won't use the cancle anyway but from time to time i encounter a good scorp who does the cancle.

 

[HAMMER]

His teleport is easily punishable. Jump and attack, or block and attack.

 

[OutworldKeith]

you are talking about reads but when i read a teleport i have to guess between cancle or attack. isn't that a 50/50? or is there a guaranteed way to deal with it when i know it's coming? i know scrubs won't use the cancle anyway but from time to time i encounter a good scorp who does the cancle.

If you know it’s coming and you’re right, you just made a read. If he cancels you can react. Depending on who you’re using your best options from a cancel TP are to d4 or just walk backwards.

 

[atljonesbro3]

His teleport is super braindead. In fact his entire character really takes no brain power.

 

[Shirakani]

I am a good reborn user. Me and my sparring partner run the Subz/Scorp MU all the time. I use him and play against him.

You want him to use up his defense meters then you can be as aggressive as you want. It’s not a 50/50 it’s not hard to make reads and react.

Y’all are crying about a TP cancel with no guaranteed setups or plus frames lmao.

By 'him' I meant the guy who's actually crying. I'm not the one with a problem here yo. I think Scorpion needs MORE.

 

[OutworldKeith]

you are talking about reads but when i read a teleport i have to guess between cancle or attack. isn't that a 50/50? or is there a guaranteed way to deal with it when i know it's coming? i know scrubs won't use the cancle anyway but from time to time i encounter a good scorp who does the cancle.

Watch my video bro. I conditioned him with the throw after a TP cancel. When he got tired of getting thrown I started whiff punishing his attempts to poke or tech the throw. All he had to do use her advancing kick (idk the button) or walk back. Walking back just resets the neutral.

 

[OutworldKeith]

By 'him' I meant the guy who's actually crying. I'm not the one with a problem here yo. I think Scorpion needs MORE.

Damn my bad bro lmao. Once I fired a shot I put my weapon on burst

 

[magandi]

thanks i try to walk back next time. still feels weird that at any point the game can turn into a guessing game.