Dragon Ball FighterZ Discussion Thread (Game)

[freerf245]

What is the length of the story if you skip all the cutscenes?

 

[villainous monk]

Has anyone completed all the combo challenges yet. Y'all finding any of them kind of difficult like #9 or 10?

 

[Koin-Operated]

What is the length of the story if you skip all the cutscenes?

It took me 3 days to complete story mode. I want to say its about 5-6 hours long if you skip all cutscenes.

 

[freerf245]

It took me 3 days to completing story mode. I want to say its about 5-6 hours long if you skip all cutscenes.

wtf

 

[Orochi]

Has anyone completed all the combo challenges yet. Y'all finding any of them kind of difficult like #9 or 10?

Easy peasy, look at the demo if you can't figure one out

 

[villainous monk]

Easy peasy, look at the demo if you can't figure one out

Yeah I'm finding them pretty easy to do myself. I kinda thought most of the tutorials and challenges would be well more challenging but I was wondering if others thought the same.

 

[Parasurama]

Honestly, you can mash through almost ANYTHING in this game and yeah, at times, it raises my salt levels. But then i realize there's always way to adapt instead of out mashing another opponent. I'm still learning as i go

How do you guys feel about Frieza in your team? Im gonna try him out with my Kid Buu and Vegeta

I need to learn how to mash out of pressure... I get into full combos How do I know when it is my turn?

 

[villainous monk]

I need to learn how to mash out of pressure... I get into full combos How do I know when it is my turn?

You can do reflect. Actually you should be doing reflect when your opponent gets in. Reflect is 4S! You can press it multiple times to when your in the path of a beam fire or Vegita's rapid fire in the air. Also it looks extremely cool too as you can destroy the background too. 4S stops pressure dead in it's tracks. Mind you, you have to be in a neutral state to pull it off. It also sends the opponent full screens away so you can do whatever afterwards. Like I said you can press it multiple times as I had faced a few dudes who would randomly send out assists afterwards and they to would be reflected. It's a very very very good tool. Possibly one of the best tools in the game.

Also guard canceling works just as good and leaves you in plus frame advantage which you call out your assist afterwards to perform a lvl 1 or lvl 3 super or assist or change up.

You can also AA by doing 2H

There are lots of ways to get out of pressure. Mashing can only work for so long as your opponent can learn and adapt just as much and bait you to mash out your defense which then they will read.

Always play as much defense as possible. I'm aslo learning as I go through the same issues but I find a lil bit of research and the tutorials help by doing it over and over again and labbing the game mechanics out help a tremendous amount.

 

[TamedLizard]

World tournament arena and West city have godlike music. Tbh I couldn’t tell you about the other music because I’ve really only listened to these tracks in matches/training.

Probably my favourite track (1:50-2:11 <3), but they're all so good. Love the bluesy track on the island stage too.

 

[DarksydeDash]

Android 18 might have the best theme in the game.

That song is FIRE!

 

[God Confirm]

You can do reflect. Actually you should be doing reflect when your opponent gets in. Reflect is 4S! You can press it multiple times to when your in the path of a beam fire or Vegita's rapid fire in the air. Also it looks extremely cool too as you can destroy the background too. 4S stops pressure dead in it's tracks. Mind you, you have to be in a neutral state to pull it off. It also sends the opponent full screens away so you can do whatever afterwards. Like I said you can press it multiple times as I had faced a few dudes who would randomly send out assists afterwards and they to would be reflected. It's a very very very good tool. Possibly one of the best tools in the game.

Also guard canceling works just as good and leaves you in plus frame advantage which you call out your assist afterwards to perform a lvl 1 or lvl 3 super or assist or change up.

You can also AA by doing 2H

There are lots of ways to get out of pressure. Mashing can only work for so long as your opponent can learn and adapt just as much and bait you to mash out your defense which then they will read.

Always play as much defense as possible. I'm aslo learning as I go through the same issues but I find a lil bit of research and the tutorials help by doing it over and over again and labbing the game mechanics out help a tremendous amount.

I agree man. Mash the shit out of reflect until they start punishing you for it, I'm betting 99% of even competitive players out there havent tested what Reflect does to their shit

obviously use it carefully vs tick throws and android 16 n shit tho

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Has anyone completed all the combo challenges yet. Y'all finding any of them kind of difficult like #9 or 10?

If you blitz it, it's maybe 4hrs, possibly 5 depending on how fast you get through sets. I ran all attack damage boosts amd swapped out special attack boosts whenever they were a level better. I did absolutely nothing but the minimum required to get through each board game section.. if you take a second to find the fastest route it saves 1-4 fights most of the time, though bad luck can put enemies on empty squares. When in fights I did nothing fancy. Just immediately super dash into a combo. When you have the meter and burn a lv1, call in additional level 1s to up the damage. If you feel like it's necessary, run an XP boost instead of 1 attack boosts so you stay leveled, you don't need the levels to win at all, just to do more damage and finish things faster. When you do rescue someone (some are automatic) check them, sometimes their level may be higher than your current guys and it makes sense swapping them in.

I spent maybe 3hrs in the first arc because I was tinkering with this crap but rolled through the rest in around an hour and 10 or so each. So if you focus going in, I can see this being done in 4hours.

 

[God Confirm]

If you blitz it, it's maybe 4hrs, possibly 5 depending on how fast you get through sets. I ran all attack damage boosts amd swapped out special attack boosts whenever they were a level better. I did absolutely nothing but the minimum required to get through each board game section.. if you take a second to find the fastest route it saves 1-4 fights most of the time, though bad luck can put enemies on empty squares. When in fights I did nothing fancy. Just immediately super dash into a combo. When you have the meter and burn a lv1, call in additional level 1s to up the damage. If you feel like it's necessary, run an XP boost instead of 1 attack boosts so you stay leveled, you don't need the levels to win at all, just to do more damage and finish things faster. When you do rescue someone (some are automatic) check them, sometimes their level may be higher than your current guys and it makes sense swapping them in.

I spent maybe 3hrs in the first arc because I was tinkering with this crap but rolled through the rest in around an hour and 10 or so each. So if you focus going in, I can see this being done in 4hours.

i think you misunderstood the question. He's talking about combo challenges in training mode.

Has anyone completed all the combo challenges yet. Y'all finding any of them kind of difficult like #9 or 10?

I did them all, the only one's that were a little challenging that I remember was one of Hits and one of Yamchas. One of Piccolos and Buu's each took me a little bit of time because they were a little awkward. For the most part it was a breeze. Spent more time in the loading screens then the combo training. I think I did a few character's entire 1-10 without even having to reset once, and I was literally just reading the inputs for the first time as I did them, and I had a few beers in me. The combo training in this game was extremely disappointing imo

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

They had to tone it down, BB and GG had completely ridiculous combo trails with fucked up pacing.
1 trail is just normal into special and the very next one it's Tiger knee special into tight link into Special roman cancel into micro dash standing normal into jump cancel instant air dash jump kick on the way down then link into super with a fucked up input like udfb or 3 hcbs (real super inputs in BB) like wtf game walk me through it, buy me dinner first.. It just goes in raw and you're supposed to keep up.

I do agree that they went too far in making them easy in dbfz though coz half the trails are autocombos...

 

[ABACABB]

how do you tag into super without doing super with first char ? I know its possible

 

[God Confirm]

They had to tone it down, BB and GG had completely ridiculous combo trails with fucked up pacing.
1 trail is just normal into special and the very next one it's Tiger knee special into tight link into Special roman cancel into micro dash standing normal into jump cancel instant air dash jump kick on the way down then link into super with a fucked up input like udfb or 3 hcbs (real super inputs in BB) like wtf game walk me through it, buy me dinner first.. It just goes in raw and you're supposed to keep up.

I do agree that they went too far in making them easy in dbfz though coz half the trails are autocombos...

They were meant to be a challenge. There was 10 basic ones first, then 10 progressively more advanced ones after. You didn't have to finish them. The challenge was very fun.

 

[God Confirm]

how do you tag into super without doing super with first char ? I know its possible

41236 assist for lvl 1, reverse that for lvl 3

 

[EntropicByDesign]

i think you misunderstood the question. He's talking about combo challenges in training mode.




I did them all, the only one's that were a little challenging that I remember was one of Hits and one of Yamchas. One of Piccolos and Buu's each took me a little bit of time because they were a little awkward. For the most part it was a breeze. Spent more time in the loading screens then the combo training. I think I did a few character's entire 1-10 without even having to reset once, and I was literally just reading the inputs for the first time as I did them, and I had a few beers in me. The combo training in this game was extremely disappointing imo

Oops. I meant to quote @freerf245 - he asked how long story mode was.

 

[Juggs]

It will matter less as people get better.. but right now people are getting way too much mileage out of it.

"If you're getting hit why does it matter if its auto or not."

Well, in anime fighters, execution typically matters. You can close your eyes and mash with zero risk of a drop. I wonder if any of the people who think they arent dumb ever played a game like GG. Its not automatic that people are going to hit every link in a game like that once you get opened up. Combine that with zero defensive bursts... its just dumb.

Like i said it will matter less as time goes on, but no.... they arent necessary. At all.

Funny story. I was getting bodied trying to actually play, so i started looking at my phone and just mashing light while i waited for the match to end. I killed two of the dudes characters without even looking at the tv. I dont care how bad the guy was. Thats fucking dumb.

Its not nearly as bad as the utility of superdash though.. this game has a bunch of realiy cool anime style game mechanics... that they've invalidated with other noob friendly stuff.

Hey lets have an air recovery where you can recover if your opponent messes up their combo and your hitstun resets.... but also lol nevermind auto combo.

Lets have air dashes and super jumps and iad and a bunch of cool movement options... but also lol superdash tracks everything and beats all of them

I haven’t lost to a single person only doing auto combos. The only people using only auto combos I would realistically lose to is actual good players who are justing using them to show off that they can win only using them, or someone using them in 20 frames of delay. Actually, the auto combos are great in the very rare laggy matches (I’ve only had one unplayable match, 20 frames of delay).

Also, you can manipulate the auto combo system to extend your manual combos. Anyslut, the point is, you shouldn’t lose to them and it helps scrubs who never played a fighter get into the game. We want as many people as possible playing this game.

 

[Sultani]

This game is like so close to being amazing. Just make superdash like -10 and put in a stylish vs technical mode like GG had, but have the difference be auto combos vs not. Mashing buttons for strings is fine. Mashing buttons for free air combos is not.

I've only lost to one dude using auto combos. But he was obviously good at anime fighters. He moved like he knew what he was doing and yeah... he was trying to win only using them.

I just feel like a move that punishes projectiles on reaction, beats normals, tracks from full screen, juggles, crushes lows, and can be done in the air probably shouldnt also be safe. Not to mention ive had it just go right through 2H multiple times.

 

[Juggs]

Easy peasy, look at the demo if you can't figure one out

Yeah, they’re very simple. The only tough ones are SOME characters 9-10 but that’s because some of them you have to time in a certain way and it doesn’t tell you that. But after trying it a few times it’s easy to figure out if you havw ANY fighting game experience.

I still think they need an advanced combo trials and an advanced tutorial mode. Like they don’t mention jump canceling, all what spark does, how to dhc only using the assist super, how to iAD and that there’s a shortcut, etc etc. These are essential gameplay mechanics that you need to know.

 

[Sultani]

Yeah, they’re very simple. The only tough ones are SOME characters 9-10 but that’s because some of them you have to time in a certain way and it doesn’t tell you that. But after trying it a few times it’s easy to figure out if you havw ANY fighting game experience.

I still think they need an advanced combo trials and an advanced tutorial mode. Like they don’t mention jump canceling, all what spark does, how to dhc only using the assist super, how to iAD and that there’s a shortcut, etc etc. These are essential gameplay mechanics that you need to know.

"Hardest" ones seem to be the ones that have odd otg timing.

Are there any combos that require a jc into iad to extend? I feel like thats something this games missing right now.

Agree that advanced combo trial would be awesome. These trials dont show any optimal bnbs.

 

[God Confirm]

It will matter less as people get better.. but right now people are getting way too much mileage out of it.

"If you're getting hit why does it matter if its auto or not."

Well, in anime fighters, execution typically matters. You can close your eyes and mash with zero risk of a drop. I wonder if any of the people who think they arent dumb ever played a game like GG. Its not automatic that people are going to hit every link in a game like that once you get opened up. Combine that with zero defensive bursts... its just dumb.

Like i said it will matter less as time goes on, but no.... they arent necessary. At all.

Funny story. I was getting bodied trying to actually play, so i started looking at my phone and just mashing light while i waited for the match to end. I killed two of the dudes characters without even looking at the tv. I dont care how bad the guy was. Thats fucking dumb.

Its not nearly as bad as the utility of superdash though.. this game has a bunch of realiy cool anime style game mechanics... that they've invalidated with other noob friendly stuff.

Hey lets have an air recovery where you can recover if your opponent messes up their combo and your hitstun resets.... but also lol nevermind auto combo.

Lets have air dashes and super jumps and iad and a bunch of cool movement options... but also lol superdash tracks everything and beats all of them

if you cant beat people mashing autocombos you are scrubbing out hard. One meterless combo should be getting you bout double what they get off an autocombo. You start adding meter in you should have 7k damage or more on hand a lot of the time. You're playing against someone with zero neutral who is just spamming buttons and superdash. I'm sorry, but the objective fact is that if you're losing to someone spamming autocombos, then you're playing even worse than someone spamming autocombos.

I also air dashing is still important, you get to keep air options

 

[God Confirm]

Yeah, they’re very simple. The only tough ones are SOME characters 9-10 but that’s because some of them you have to time in a certain way and it doesn’t tell you that. But after trying it a few times it’s easy to figure out if you havw ANY fighting game experience.

I still think they need an advanced combo trials and an advanced tutorial mode. Like they don’t mention jump canceling, all what spark does, how to dhc only using the assist super, how to iAD and that there’s a shortcut, etc etc. These are essential gameplay mechanics that you need to know.

its possible with the simple combo mechanics that they arent sure how to do advanced combos yet, and maybe this will come in time

 

[Juggs]

its possible with the simple combo mechanics that they arent sure how to do advanced combos yet, and maybe this will come in time

Yeah very true.

Speaking of which. So I’ve been doing LL2M5M, j.c, LM, j.c, LM xx 2H, SD, LLL (auto combo HKD). But I’ve seen people do longer combos but done in a similar way. This is with Vegeta, A.Gohan, Goku Black. I mean it’s kinda hard to ask/answer this without a video or exact notations, but they’re doing longer combos than this and idk how. It LOOKS like they’re getting an extra j.c but I’m not sure. Any ideas?