Costumes or Gear System for Mortal Kombat 11?

[NothingPersonal]

Can you do Bane next?

Can you show me all of Tremor's costumes?

In all fairness, some characters it was a hit with gear and for some it was a massive miss. characters like Poison Ivy dont change much unless shader is changed and characters like Sub Zero change dramatically.

80% of the cast is like Ivy, which is sad but hopefully in the next game they will bring back the gear system for aesthetics only and there will be much less censoring ( a la Black Canary's spray painted top body)

That's basically it. They could do sets though that would act like alternates totally changing the character. But they'd have to lay off the laziness.

 

[NothingPersonal]

You can change Sub Zero's skin tone but not Grodd fur. You can make raiden look like a ninja but Robin gears are essentially the same with the only thing changing them being the shaders etc

Well, tough titties, all I can say.

 

[DownfouralitY]

Gear sucks. Barely any variety for most of the cast and it takes forever to get the pieces that you actually want. If it does come back I would rather it be heavily modified and based less on RNG. If they want to keep it unique to Injustice that's fine by me because there are a ton of designs I want to come back and I doubt you'll be able to have them due to gear, just like in this game. The only thing I definitely want to come over to MK is shaders, I think they're great for the most part, I do wish there was a customizable shader option but I realize that could be ridiculous for some characters.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

Gear sucks. Barely any variety for most of the cast and it takes forever to get the pieces that you actually want. If it does come back I would rather it be heavily modified and based less on RNG. If they want to keep it unique to Injustice that's fine by me because there are a ton of designs I want to come back and I doubt you'll be able to have them due to gear, just like in this game. The only thing I definitely want to come over to MK is shaders, I think they're great for the most part, I do wish there was a customizable shader option but I realize that could be ridiculous for some characters.

It will probably come back because WB need a reason to have lootboxes in the game idk If they'll still use the abilities though.

 

[NothingPersonal]

I'd like to see exactly the opposite. Gear present, shaders gone. Maybe some shaders, but two color palettes, one for each player, is fine by me. I don't want to see Scorpion use a blue shader, because then he becomes Sub-Zero, so more food for palette swaps puns.

 

[DownfouralitY]

I'd like to see exactly the opposite. Gear present, shaders gone. Maybe some shaders, but two color palettes, one for each player, is fine by me. I don't want to see Scorpion use a blue shader, because then he becomes Sub-Zero, so more food for palette swaps puns.

I mean, we've seen in this game that for certain characters they'll just get a palette based on their primary color. Atrocitus gets lots of reds/darker colors etc. They look different enough now and play different enough that people can distinguish between them anyway, this hasn't been an issue since the original games.

 

[NothingPersonal]

I mean, we've seen in this game that for certain characters they'll just get a palette based on their primary color. Atrocitus gets lots of reds/darker colors etc. They look different enough now and play different enough that people can distinguish between them anyway, this hasn't been an issue since the original games.

And then you'll have Scorpion players bitchin' about Havik having more different shaders. To be honest, other than blue shaders look bad on SZ. Like, yellow ice spikes? What is this, frozen piss?

 

[Roy Arkon]

I'd like to see exactly the opposite. Gear present, shaders gone. Maybe some shaders, but two color palettes, one for each player, is fine by me. I don't want to see Scorpion use a blue shader, because then he becomes Sub-Zero, so more food for palette swaps puns.

I think this might actually happen now that I think about. It worked for Sub-Zero in IJ2 because you can them create any MK Ninja you want, but in an MK game where all of the Ninjas are gonna be there anyway, I think the Ninjas, and eventually the whole roster, will get maybe 4 regular shaders tops, with the only extrad be tournament or other special shaders.

 

[DownfouralitY]

And then you'll have Scorpion players bitchin' about Havik having more different shaders. To be honest, other than blue shaders look bad on SZ. Like, yellow ice? What is this, frozen piss?

Well, of course they put in all the shaders for Sub considering there wasn't going to be any other in the game, I do agree that they're horrid. I'm sure they can come up with enough colors for Scorpion. Also, Havik coming back? You know better than that

 

[BruskyPoet]

I'm sorry but that this statement is not even more ridiculous. Do you really think that NRS would pick Bo' Rai Cho for DLC just because of Brady? Other fans wanted him too, you know. Also, as far as I know, Tom said that only after KP2 was already announced. NRS wouldn't pick a character for just one player, come on dude.

Ffs dude. Never did I say Bo's inclusion was JUST because of one guy. I just said his request had something to do with it. That could mean a small or big factor. Obviously small. V small. I have no doubts someone thought of Brady's words about dropping Sub for Bo when deciding DLC in a meeting room or some shit. That's all I'm going to say. My first reply just turned into an irrelevant convo to this thread.

 

[Roy Arkon]

Ffs dude. Never did I say Bo's inclusion was JUST because of one guy. I just said his request had something to do with it. That could mean a small or big factor. Obviously small. V small. I have no doubts someone thought of Brady's words about dropping Sub for Bo when deciding DLC in a meeting room or some shit. That's all I'm going to say. My first reply just turned into an irrelevant convo to this thread.

Even in this department it is still way too outtages to be true. NRS are never gonna include a character because of one person, no matter how big ir small that factor might be especailly that like I said, Tom said what he said only AFTER they announced KP2, so he was gonna be thetr regardless. They included Bo' because of a good amount of yhe community wanted and they found ideas for his gameplay. It is all there is.

Now let's get back to the topic at hand.

 

[BruskyPoet]

Another thing, if gear does comes back, I hope it's like MK Armageddon KAF. This time with A LOT more costume pieces made. Where you can visually see what a character has in terms of gear selection. I want to be able to go to the character I play, Liu Kang, and cherry pick what I want on him. If I see something I want like MKD Liu Kang chains and it costs 2,000,000 coins or something, then I know I have a goal in the game and I know what I'm grinding for. I hate how in Injustice 2 I grind mindlessly for hours and NEVER get what I want in those hours spent.

Add updates as well that will give more gear to the characters as the game lives on. Also, just give us gear pieces that resemble what the specific character has worn from the actual games. Don't give me things Liu Kang would never wear like a Constantine trench coat or robot fists.

 

[NothingPersonal]

Even in this department it is still way too outtages to be true. NRS are never gonna include a character because of one person, no matter how big ir small that factor might be especailly that like I said, Tom said what he said only AFTER they announced KP2, so he was gonna be thetr regardless. They included Bo' because of a good amount of yhe community wanted and they found ideas for his gameplay. It is all there is.

Now let's get back to the topic at hand.

Watch at 4:29. Too bad they didn't keep the skin though, it was awesome.

 

[Espio]

People are kind of missing the mark I feel. This is the first NRS title where you can actually have multiple skins for DLC characters on top of that, you don't just get one, extra you can have five slots for different looks that you can change whenever you want to if you get tired of a look or want to try something different. The DLC characters have fantastic choices for gear options as well and it's not just them, Beetle, Scarecrow and many on the main roster have great, varied looks that truly alter/transform your character.

Not to mention everyone has equal amounts of slots as opposed to playing other NRS titles where Scorpion and Sub-Zero have seven skins and your character has only one skin or two and you better like one of the two or you're just out of luck cause you're never getting skins.

I don't know why people keep talking about the stats for gear as a problem. You literally NEVER have to deal with stats unless you want to play non-competitive mode so that's a non-issue honestly. It would be like complaining about story mode when you don't have to play it to enjoy the competitive aspects of the game.

This is one of the only NRS titles where I actually have more than one-two costumes I actually like for my main and that's because I can actually add the colors and accents/gear I want as opposed to being locked into pre-selected choices that I don't care for at all.

Like I wasn't a fan of the bug eyed face mask for Beetle UNTIL I got the golden tournament shader. The glowing, eye less face mask looks great with the all purple, grey and gold Coloun shader as well.

When I see people's different designs, I feel like everyone has their own distinct looks and you can actually express your own style onto your characters, that type of creative freedom is wonderful.

Like all things, it isn't perfect but if it returns, it will only get better over time.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

In all fairness, some characters it was a hit with gear and for some it was a massive miss. characters like Poison Ivy dont change much unless shader is changed and characters like Sub Zero change dramatically.

80% of the cast is like Ivy, which is sad but hopefully in the next game they will bring back the gear system for aesthetics only and there will be much less censoring ( a la Black Canary's spray painted top body)

It was the execution that turned ppl off to having gear ever come back, absolutely.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

It was the execution that turned ppl off to having gear ever come back, absolutely.

Look at all the casuals that love it though and pay for currencies...

 

[Blade4693]

Costumes. Screw that RNG crap. I would rather pay money for costumes I want than keep my fingers crossed and hope I get what I want from a damn lootbox. Plus sifting through the inventory and picking out what you do and don't want for each character when it is full is annoying as hell too lol

I honestly just really dislike this system in Injustice 2. Customization is nice but i'll take KI's version any day, where I unlock items by leveling the character and know exactly what I am getting or buy the stuff I want early with money.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

Look at all the casuals that love it though and pay for currencies...

Right. But I'm not saying I hate it. I love ANY game that can fully customize your character to look anyway you see fit. I just wish Injustice went ALL THE WAY with their gear pieces with more creativity. I hope they do bring back the gear in MK11 as well as skins. That way, keep both parties happy, the money coming up, and everybody gets what they want

 

[Cashual]

Honestly I want both. But I want the gear to be PURELY cosmetic, no augments or "stat" boosts.

But the gear needs to be truly diverse and unique. So much of the gear in I2 is so subtly different it's often damn near impossible to differentiate pieces.

I'll scroll between 2 pieces like 3 times and then go, "oh.....the border on the shoulder pad is a little more angular than rounded....cool...I guess..."

I think I2 dropped the ball in regards to premier skin opportunities. Every character in the game should have a minimum of 5 premier skins.

At least one full on different character that potentially held that hero's mantle (John Stewart for example but there's many others for almost every character), at least 1 or 2 retro costumes reflecting older designs, a true alternate, I'd like to see an alter ego skin/plain clothes skin (Clark Kent would be dope, perhaps with the white shirt partially opened revealing the S like he got caught mid change, and a Hal fighter pilot Hal or like in Tom Cruises leather bomber jacket or something), and then finally one original design as a collaboration between NRS/DC.

Mkx I think gear could be dope. Or just do truly quality and plentiful skins and costumes that make sense within the universe. I'm personally not a fan of the jokey/themed skins, I just don't dig it. If they wanna include stuff like that as SF does, so be it, but not at he exclusion of cool true alternates.

I don't need Brazil athletic wear skins, I don't need mime Cage, etc.

 

[BruskyPoet]

People are kind of missing the mark I feel. This is the first NRS title where you can actually have multiple skins for DLC characters on top of that, you don't just get one, extra you can have five slots for different looks that you can change whenever you want to if you get tired of a look or want to try something different. The DLC characters have fantastic choices for gear options as well and it's not just them, Beetle, Scarecrow and many on the main roster have great, varied looks that truly alter/transform your character.

Not to mention everyone has equal amounts of slots as opposed to playing other NRS titles where Scorpion and Sub-Zero have seven skins and your character has only one skin or two and you better like one of the two or you're just out of luck cause you're never getting skins.

I don't know why people keep talking about the stats for gear as a problem. You literally NEVER have to deal with stats unless you want to play non-competitive mode so that's a non-issue honestly. It would be like complaining about story mode when you don't have to play it to enjoy the competitive aspects of the game.

This is one of the only NRS titles where I actually have more than one-two costumes I actually like for my main and that's because I can actually add the colors and accents/gear I want as opposed to being locked into pre-selected choices that I don't care for at all.

Like I wasn't a fan of the bug eyed face mask for Beetle UNTIL I got the golden tournament shader. The glowing, eye less face mask looks great with the all purple, grey and gold Coloun shader as well.

When I see people's different designs, I feel like everyone has their own distinct looks and you can actually express your own style onto your characters, that type of creative freedom is wonderful.

Like all things, it isn't perfect but if it returns, it will only get better over time.

I think people's main issue is the lack of classic and iconic designs. If NRS' logic is "We want to make all gear pieces match, so all of what you get is our robot designs with a pinch of classic pieces" then that gets me worried for the future of returning classic designs for MK games. If all I'm getting is just Liu Kang covered in armor, that's gunna hurt. Sure there are very cool looking original designs but since we are used to getting classic and iconic designs and them suddenly not being there is just a real disappointment.

Edit: The lack of variety too.

Sure, Sub and Scorpion getting like 11 skins sucks but it's really NRS' fault for just not making skins for other characters. There's no reason for Quan Chi to not have his MKDA design or his MK 2011 alt. Hell, just make completely original cool looking designs. I'd be down for that, they're still getting skins. What more do you want?

 

[VSC_Supreme]

I'm not a fan of the bulky design gear placed on all the characters on injustice. Some of the gear systems feel out of place as well because they're made to work as free form with only a few sets.

Lootboxes suck and are a cheap way to get the casuals to keep playing the game. Give me milestones to unlock gear. It was nice to be able to play a multiverse to unlock a full set for the Justice league gear.

 

[Blade4693]

That's another thing. Sure each character has a few sets that make them look vastly different, but the majority of the crap you get really doesn't make a huge change. I have like 16 leg pieces for Darkseid where I feel like I need to put on a pair of glasses to see what the actual difference is. Oh there it is, this knee pad is slightly rounded near the top. Silly me!

I know I am coming off as a whiny bitch so for the record I do appreciate all of the hard work that went into making gear because some of it is very cool. I imagine designing, naming, and putting stats on each different one was probably a huge pain and took a lot of time. Plus props for trying something different. It just doesn't work for me though :/

 

[Crimea]

Both please

 

[trufenix]

I feel like a ton of people claiming no variety have seen youtube videos and never bothered to actually try unlocking anything.

 

[Roy Arkon]

Watch at 4:29. Too bad they didn't keep the skin though, it was awesome.

Well that was just a joke design they made for the show, they never intended to keep it. It was a nice joke though.

I think people's main issue is the lack of classic and iconic designs. If NRS' logic is "We want to make all gear pieces match, so all of what you get is our robot designs with a pinch of classic pieces" then that gets me worried for the future of returning classic designs for MK games. If all I'm getting is just Liu Kang covered in armor, that's gunna hurt. Sure there are very cool looking original designs but since we are used to getting classic and iconic designs and them suddenly not being there is just a real disappointment.

Edit: The lack of variety too.

Sure, Sub and Scorpion getting like 11 skins sucks but it's really NRS' fault for just not making skins for other characters. There's no reason for Quan Chi to not have his MKDA design or his MK 2011 alt. Hell, just make completely original cool looking designs. I'd be down for that, they're still getting skins. What more do you want?

You do realize they can make iconic looking designs and split them into gear pieces, right? They can get the classic skins and split them. Just because they split skins that should be made of of the splited pieces doesn't mean they are gonna make completely original skins out of them. Harley Quinn in IJ2 for example got a skin that is very resemble to her classic Batman cartoon skin out of gear pieces that you needed to unlock, so they can do the same thing for MK11, and perhaps make skins the fully resemble the originals.

Also for skins in MKX, yes Scorpion and Sub-Zero got more skins then anyone else, but Kitana, Liu Kang and Johnny Cage also got a good amount of skins, and all of the other non DLC chars got between 3-5 skins, and a good amount of the skins was for classic ones like the UMK3 male Ninjas, MK2 female Ninjas etc; and also Quan's MK4 skin, which was good considering that he got the same default MKDA skin all the way until MK9. Even his head and face structure across all of his skins, if you noticed, was the more realistic one he had in MK4, and not the less realistic one he had from MKDA until MK9.