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Shaka

Shaka

Tier Whore.
Ok it's settle almost every char in Combo Breaker's top8 is getting normalized next patch, so I'm taking this opportunity to present what could make SC viable.

D2 from 11frames to 9frames.
F21 now combos into Dead Spin & Fear Blast.
Fear Blast now launches opponents a bit higher to get consistent combos.
Fear Blast gets some invincibility on wake up.
Trait doesn't go away after clash & last longer once its filled up.
Backdash now covers a bit more ground.

Edit: Make his F213 more plus on hit for safe trait activation?

Anything else he seems fine, what do you guys think?
 
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Shaka

Shaka

Tier Whore.
WB-chan said:
btw if you think that this character needs a +6 on block invincible wake up that launches for full combo just to be "viable", then you should probly just pick someone else lol
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lots of chars are plus on wake up when meter burned. I said some invincibility, It might still get stuffed by fast strings, and you can cross it up too.

Also I already play "someone else lol" I'm playing many chars in this game and planning on learning more, so my opinion on them won't be biased.

Heck I don't even want or ask for DS nerfs and he is a struggle against most of my mains.
 
God Confirm

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
Shaka said:
lots of chars are plus on wake up when meter burned. I said some invincibility, It might still get stuffed by fast strings, and you can cross it up too.
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lots of characters have excellent zoning too, lets just tack that on to Crow as well to just make sure this character has officially no weakness



If you want what other characters have, play those characters. If you want what Scarecrow has play Scarecrow. This character does not need buffs just because he doesn't suit your playstyle
 
Shaka

Shaka

Tier Whore.
WB-chan said:
lots of characters have excellent zoning too, lets just tack that on to Crow as well to just make sure this character has officially no weakness



If you want what other characters have, play those characters. If you want what Scarecrow has play Scarecrow. This character does not need buffs just because he doesn't suit your playstyle
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Jesus learn to read.

I play Glacius & Sim, I do just fine with that style.
 
TRVP6GXD

TRVP6GXD

Noob
Shaka said:
What do you go for on your opponents wake up with SC?

also shhhhh.
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I'm having trouble understanding what you are trying to ask me. If you're asking what I use on wake up usually fear blast or his chain. You can't downplay scarecrow tho, he is kinda shitty if you don't know what you're doing with him but once you get a feel for him and learn what you can and can't do, it becomes easier.
 
Shaka

Shaka

Tier Whore.
TRVP6GXD said:
I'm having trouble understanding what you are trying to ask me. If you're asking what I use on wake up usually fear blast or his chain. You can't downplay scarecrow tho, he is kinda shitty if you don't know what you're doing with him but once you get a feel for him and learn what you can and can't do, it becomes easier.
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once u knock them down how do u stop them from pressing buttons on wake up?

Also good luck aaing Batman, I can barely aa him with AM's 7frames d2.
 
Crusty

Crusty

Retired forever; don’t ask for games.
The only thing scarecrow needs is a wakeup and that's it.

Everything else he has is good
 
Chongo

Chongo

Dead Kings Rise
Shaka said:
Ok it's settle almost every char in Combo Breaker's top8 is getting normalized next patch, so I'm taking this opportunity to present what could make SC viable.

D2 from 11frames to 9frames.
F21 now combos into Dead Spin & Fear Blast.
Fear Blast now launches opponents a bit higher to get consistent combos.
Fear Blast gets some invincibility on wake up.
Trait doesn't go away after clash & last longer once its filled up.
Backdash now covers a bit more ground.

Anything else he seems fine, what do you guys think?
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Ok I actually looked at this and jesus it is bad.

His D2 is stupid good and you want it to be buffed? It already has a broke ass hitbox, has amazing range, and ticks. What more do you want?

F2 is one of the best mids in the game, better make sure it leads into 40% lol

Not really sure what you mean? It combos fine from most starters, and while I understand the scenarios where it can fail you should be aware of them too.

I guess, I mean last time I checked blocking was an option but sure give him a wakeup.

This is a real QOL change that I would be kinda ok with. Traits going away after clash/stage transitions is normal for most of the cast so it'd be dumb if only scarecrows got fixed. I'd either want the bar to run out a little slower or have a slightly more DOT effect while Traumatize is active, that way if I'm getting pressured and not able to hit buttons their still taking damage.

Holy shit is that a reasonable request? This is the one thing I want.
 
AA25Mamba

AA25Mamba

Batman, Scarecrow, Bane
Oh, boy. You've been in a lot of threads preaching to not nerf characters, so why are we wanting to buff Scarecrow?

He's def not top tier, but he isn't bad either. A lot of the stuff you're asking for is unreasonable, especially given that he's strong in some areas you're mentioning.

D2 is fine.

F2 is great, and you can combo off the second hit of the string with MB FearNado, or you can finish the string for massive hit advantage. No need to touch it.

Are you talking about DB3 Fear Blast? If so... what? It's a good move. I wonder if the potential for it has been seen yet. I've been using it a lot on approaching enemies, and they almost always get caught by it. Add the fast it can be used in the air and I don't see how it could be made any better within reason.

Trait could MAYBE have some tweaking done with it. At this stage though, I'm not sure what. The DoT damage is really good, so if you made Traumatize last indefinitely, you could be on the verge of a stupid good trait mechanic.

Scarecrow has potential, I just don't think it's been looked at too hard yet. Let's not scream for buffs just yet (but if you must, don't go for unreasonable ones).
 
Sultan

Sultan

Kitana, Scorpion
If you want to make him OP, give him the ability to meterburn his teleport so it has next to no recovery, and give him an adequately invulnerable wake-up.

...but honestly, I only crave 1 buff - I want more hitstun on the second hit of 22 so I can combo into db1, bf1, and bounce cancels. Give me that, and I'll take being free on the floor and being stuck fullscreen vs half the cast for the rest of I2's lifespan.... I just want to slap the shit out of people for trying to backdash my shit.
 
masherofbuttons

masherofbuttons

I'll mash out of +30 I know no fear
Tbh, crow could use a wakeup (but he's solid mid tier as is) but both db3 and db2 would be too strong for a character like him. Db3 would be safe and meterless and db2mb would be plus lol.
As for the other changes, apart from the trait one none of them are necessary.
 
SnowboardRX

SnowboardRX

^ You have no idea who this guy is ^
Honestly, if we could shave off some recovery frames from the teleport, that's all I'd want from him. If I can guess correctly that they're going to use a projectile, use the tele at the right time and they are still able to recover and punish me, what the hell is the reason to even have the tele? Fix that one thing and SC is fine. I wouldn't mind an invincible wake-up for QOL but I'm doing fine without one using delayed wakeup anyway.
 
Shaka

Shaka

Tier Whore.
D2 is fine? yeah try AA'ng Batman.

Also I could do without a wakeup/reversal attack, if they buff everything else I listed.
 
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