Video/Tutorial - Sub-Zero F'ING STUPID

[Tom Brady]

I know its long.. but in BEGGING you to watch it

 

[Jer]

I havent watched these yet but I know it's gunna be quality.

 

[Yinze]

I'm guessing this has something to do with the 13-0 scar had on your stream

 

[Eldriken]

Effin' female hitboxes, man.

I watched the first 7 minutes of the first video and he's got a point. He asked a good question based off of it: "How am I supposed to know how I'm hitting them?"

 

[Northern Slasher]

Theres a lot of this bullshit with Sub Zeros B2 in the corner. A lot of inconsistenties with different characters. Along with NJP2 in the corner.

 

[Alright RyRy]

This is pretty stupid. If I hit you with an overhead that means you were blocking low, why should I have to differ my combo or not get a combo at all in Goros situation, just because I opened you up or you guessed wrong, whatever it maybe.

 

[Rampage254]

it wouldn't be MK without inconsistencies huh tth

 

[Tom Brady]

Theres a lot of this bullshit with Sub Zeros B2 in the corner. A lot of inconsistenties with different characters. Along with NJP2 in the corner.

but even when they low block, combo still misses half the time with the EXACT SAME timing. GG at its finest.

 

[Prinz]

Key phrase about the whiffing commands: "I can't seem to get it to work...". So, you want your moves to whiff?! Tom gives a whole new meaning to steping on your own foot

 

[ATP2014]

What happened to the Bo Rai Cho hype train?

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I thought I was just missing certain combos because of execution, or netcode or something. Idk this is retarded, and explains a lot.

 

[UsedForGlue]

@Tom Brady This is the exact reason that I picked up Cryomancer around two weeks into the start of the game, I couldn't land any combos or conversions on Female characters in the corner, and I still use Cryomancer on them to this day.

I literally do this:

Grandmaster - Males and characters that suffer vs it.
Cyromancer - Females...All of them. (THIS EXACT CORNER INCONSISTENCY)
Unbreakable - Handful of matchs vs certain difficult Klone destroyers.

Edit: Just watched the last minute of this.

Cryomancer combo adaption is B2 then F4, still can't land B2 B2, and you do lose a good chunk of damage for it.

I basically hinge everything on the safe(ish) armour threat.

 

[xXFiercePlayXx]

The Female hitboxes in General are stupid. Right around 10 min in the first video I was like ''wow this is messed up'' Even when you pre record a move, then the move either lands or it doesn't is weird. So it's complete random. I agree with you Tom, it's screwed up how inconsistent it is. In your words ''this is hilarious'' but this is so fucked up.

 

[kevkopdx]

What happened to the Bo Rai Cho hype train?

he probably realized boraicho is a pretty crappy character

 

[ragnar0kz28]

Maybe because this variation is soooo lame, they decided to give girls a chance to beat him, making combos randomly miss? maybe this is supposed to be like this? so he doenst kill someone in 2 and a half combos, and they add that cool random fact, like "maybe I wont get hit" making it a 50/50 for the atacking person 50 percent chance in doing the combo right and 50 percent of missing it.

 

[DDutchguy]

he probably realized boraicho is a pretty crappy character

Someone hasn't seen GG Crop Duster.

 

[ienjoywinning]

Maybe because this variation is soooo lame, they decided to give girls a chance to beat him, making combos randomly miss? maybe this is supposed to be like this? so he doenst kill someone in 2 and a half combos, and they add that cool random fact, like "maybe I wont get hit" making it a 50/50 for the atacking person 50 percent chance in doing the combo right and 50 percent of missing it.

You're perfectly fit for tyms biggest fool of the year

 

[ragnar0kz28]

You're perfectly fit for tyms biggest fool of the year

maybe your not smart enough to see sarcasm?

 

[DarksydeDash]

This explains so much.. If I hit you with an overhead you are blocking low most of the time, why do I have to freestyle my bnbs?

 

[DDutchguy]

maybe your not smart enough to see sarcasm?

Your post was too long to be seen as sarcastic. Came across as salt more than anything.

In any case, having to do combos like this is dumb, no matter what character you are.

 

[Eldriken]

Maybe because this variation is soooo lame, they decided to give girls a chance to beat him, making combos randomly miss? maybe this is supposed to be like this? so he doenst kill someone in 2 and a half combos, and they add that cool random fact, like "maybe I wont get hit" making it a 50/50 for the atacking person 50 percent chance in doing the combo right and 50 percent of missing it.

You can't be serious. It being intentional would serve no purpose.

 

[Rude]

he probably realized boraicho is a pretty crappy character

Except that Bo Rai Cho isn't crappy at all.

 

[ShotgunInsanity]

Having simple 2D hitboxes would fix this problem, I don't know why they would want more variables in their hitboxes l, it's just makes things more inconsistent.

 

[villainous monk]

I don't main sub. Never really wanted too since day 1 but I did watch these vids.

I'll learn. I'll apply it to my guys and see what I can find. Exploit or avoid. I'm in the lab right now doing the same thing with mine. Testing grandmaster as well to fully experience and over stand the situation. And of course your right but I have to ask.

Is there any differences to b2 from pre MKXL till now. Could that be the case. And when the clone connected how practical is it to use when in the heat of the battle since it wiffs so much?

Explain to a non sub player what the ice clone needs and how it should interact as subs main tool as like previous games from before.

I want to know. So I could use it to my advantage to avoid and punish. To see just how fearsome and deadly the clone still is.

 

[rev0lver]

can you pls make like tl;dw summaries because i'm usually curious but not curious enough to watch 30 minutes of shit