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. Md isnt really a game changer cause quans buttons suck and ex rune is over. I mean u have to have a full complete quan chi and absoltely be able to do every basic mixup in order to compete with other characters who seem so much stronger than him now. I only touch warlock and sorcer though. May summoner ripI can't speak for Summoner, but imo Sorcerer is better now than before. Except for losing corner switch cross over combos, I think the meter drain spell is a huge difference maker.
Quan's buttons suck?. Md isnt really a game changer cause quans buttons suck and ex rune is over. I mean u have to have a full complete quan chi and absoltely be able to do every basic mixup in order to compete with other characters who seem so much stronger than him now. I only touch warlock and sorcer though. May summoner rip
The start up of his normals haven't changed. So that's not a talking point for why he is bad NOW.Honestly it doesnt matter hos buttons are slow yes hes low damage now and no defense with no wakeup.
When that's the best argument you can present after all this, it's pretty clear you don't know what you're talking about.Lol dude im not saying quan is aweful, but hes close too it. Dont be in denial with this cmon now bring all that information it doesnt change the fact that all other characters barring a few are so much more diverse than quan now.
Who is more "diverse"? Listen we want dedicated Quan mains here. If you aren't willing to give your soul to lord Quan then go main whoever becomes top tier after this patch.Lol dude im not saying quan is aweful, but hes close too it. Dont be in denial with this cmon now bring all that information it doesnt change the fact that all other characters barring a few are so much more diverse than quan now.
He's still easily top 10. The fact you can't just mindlessly do 50/50s and have to use the character a bit more fundamentally does not make him awfulLol dude im not saying quan is aweful, but hes close too it. Dont be in denial with this cmon now bring all that information it doesnt change the fact that all other characters barring a few are so much more diverse than quan now.
I don't think the meter drain spell buff really did much for him for 2 reasons. With the trance hit advantage nerf you have to spend 2 bars of your own meter to use the meter drain runes in combos instead of just 1. This wouldn't be so bad and might actually be balanced if it weren't for the fact that once we use the meter drain spell we still have to wait for the timer to run out to use another spell, mainly armor. The fact that you have to stand in the meter drain spell for its effect to be active means you won't get much use out of it in the neutral since no good zoner just stands in one spot obviously, so losing the armor spell setup after spending 2 bars of meter doesn't seem balanced to me.Quan's buttons suck?
A -1 on block d3 that leads to a 50/50 on hit?
A nearly half-screen overhead that can catch jump backs, is special cancellable, and starts in 15 frames? (B2)
A 14 frame, mid-hitting move that covers almost an entire character space away from him, is only -9, and can anti-air?(B1)
A -1 on block string that can be special cancelled and has a hitbox that extends past his hand and can be mixed with it's four hit version for a combo?(F212/F2122)
No.
What makes meter drain spell so great comes down to several things:
It removes advancing armor as an option from characters who would otherwise ignore his zoning. With purple spell up, if they're full screen you can drain meter and take away options like MB Shadow Kick and MB Slide. Without these kinds of moves, they have to get in normally, which isn't easy.
Another thing it does is allow Quan to pressure a little better. Example: Say you're fighting Kung Lao. A lot of good Laos will use the threat of the armor on spin to condition you not to hit buttons even when it's your turn. Without the armor, the player can't ignore whatever it is you're doing and launch you for a full combo with armor.
You're also building meter while taking it away from the opponent.
MB Rune isn't "dead." Paulo revealed today on stream that you can still delay MB Rune for the +14, provided that you're willing to take a risk. If you do and you're successful, you get a 50/50 attempt.
Even if you mash it out at -11, you're still safe and can check with d1. If they have a 7 frame poke, you might trade. You you could just block and counterpoke.
It's all right.
i can guarentee i know more and will beat u in a quan set, i dont seep into those details like u thats all. Ur failed insuation makes me believe ur emotions are hurt by this nerfball, and dink no way quan ever summoner is top 10 after bew kb back lol. But dink prove me wrong i hope u doWhen that's the best argument you can present after all this, it's pretty clear you don't know what you're talking about.
Quan Chi will play differently than before, but he's not a bad character at all.
i can guarentee i know more and will beat u in a quan set, i dont seep into those details like u thats all. Ur failed insuation makes me believe ur emotions are hurt by this nerfball, and dink no way quan ever summoner is top 10 after bew kb back lol. But dink prove me wrong i hope u do
The most you need for your projectiles to be effective is exactly one foot in the meter drain spell. Not only that, but if they're running at you to try and hit you out of the circle, you have plenty of options.I don't think the meter drain spell buff really did much for him for 2 reasons. With the trance hit advantage nerf you have to spend 2 bars of your own meter to use the meter drain runes in combos instead of just 1. This wouldn't be so bad and might actually be balanced if it weren't for the fact that once we use the meter drain spell we still have to wait for the timer to run out to use another spell, mainly armor. The fact that you have to stand in the meter drain spell for its effect to be active means you won't get much use out of it in the neutral since no good zoner just stands in one spot obviously, so losing the armor spell setup after spending 2 bars of meter doesn't seem balanced to me.
It still helps, but the armor spell was already so good that I don't think the meter drain spell has been buffed enough to make it a definitively better spell to use in certain situations like in combos. That's why I think you should be able to switch spells before the timer runs out. That way you could combo into EX trance, use the meter drain spell and finish the combo while draining meter, then cancel the meter drain spell into the armor spell during the knockdown. It's too early to see if I'm right but from my experience with Sorcerer in the beta I don't think he's as good as he needs to be.
Lol kid dont be a quan chi troll. I dont talk nerd over the web sorry, and my quan will destroy yours. If u wanna 1v1 and ill teach u some quan that u had no clue he could do that then hmu. Xbl- barkingspider08. But u think cause u talk like a mkx devolper on here doesnt mean ur remotely good at the game nerd. My quan will own urs, and there should be a quan chi tournament honestly to see who has best warlock, best summonwr and best sorcerer on this siteSigh.
Look, I was more than happy to actually talk about your stance with details.
However, your rebuttals have amounted to, "Nuh-uh" so what am I supposed to do with that?
You haven't even explained yourself beyond the most generic of talking points, so why shouldn't I dismiss you if you've shown no willingness to actually explain yourself?
Since you're not offering anything of actual constructive value, I've got nothing left to say.
Cool story, but I don't own an XBox, sorry.Lol kid dont be a quan chi troll. I dont talk nerd over the web sorry, and my quan will destroy yours. If u wanna 1v1 and ill teach u some quan that u had no clue he could do that then hmu. Xbl- barkingspider08. But u think cause u talk like a mkx devolper on here doesnt mean ur remotely good at the game nerd. My quan will own urs, and there should be a quan chi tournament honestly to see who has best warlock, best summonwr and best sorcerer on this site
Lol ok quanCool story, but I don't own an XBox, sorry.
You just called him a kid , And your gamer tag is "barkingspider08" not to mention you're arguing like a complete baby "OH i know quan more than you do and ill destroy you" so yeah , You're the kid here lol.Lol kid dont be a quan chi troll. I dont talk nerd over the web sorry, and my quan will destroy yours. If u wanna 1v1 and ill teach u some quan that u had no clue he could do that then hmu. Xbl- barkingspider08. But u think cause u talk like a mkx devolper on here doesnt mean ur remotely good at the game nerd. My quan will own urs, and there should be a quan chi tournament honestly to see who has best warlock, best summonwr and best sorcerer on this site
I'll add you. It would be an honor to play the best Quan chi player. I'll record our set and post it here after. When's a good time for you to play?Lol kid dont be a quan chi troll. I dont talk nerd over the web sorry, and my quan will destroy yours. If u wanna 1v1 and ill teach u some quan that u had no clue he could do that then hmu. Xbl- barkingspider08. But u think cause u talk like a mkx devolper on here doesnt mean ur remotely good at the game nerd. My quan will own urs, and there should be a quan chi tournament honestly to see who has best warlock, best summonwr and best sorcerer on this site