General/Other - Ferra/Torr [EO Beta] Ferra/Torr Beta Changes

[Impr0b]

Ohhhh yeah, here we go!

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

E X F E R R A B O Y Z!

 

[FoughtDragon01]

Well that just figures. I already made the decision to pick up Ferra/Torr once March 1st finally hit. I've even hit the lab with 'em already and started using them in the current online (awful experience). Now with this new foolishness they've received, I'm gonna feel like a bandwagon player. I DON'T WANNA BE A BANDWAGON PLAYER!

 

[x-azeez]

Well that just figures. I already made the decision to pick up Ferra/Torr once March 1st finally hit. I've even hit the lab with 'em already and started using them in the current online (awful experience). Now with this new foolishness they've received, I'm gonna feel like a bandwagon player. I DON'T WANNA BE A BANDWAGON PLAYER!

hello fellow bandwagon player, those buffs are ridiculous. no one is gonna blame you if you join the F/T bandwagon

 

[Eldriken]

Guys, guys. It's still the beta. Some of these changes aren't necessarily going to make it. Let's not forget that.

Let's save our tears for when the patch goes live on March 1st. =P

 

[Wetdoba]

Guys, guys. It's still the beta. Some of these changes aren't necessarily going to make it. Let's not forget that.

Let's save our tears for when the patch goes live on March 1st. =P

Yeah I really hope they make the EX overhead and low toss really unsafe, like -15 point blank. that way they will at least have to be used for anti air into combo/trip guard into combo and not just an overhead or low into combo. man I really need that beta update to test this shit out

 

[ragnar0kz28]

lol buffing a character that was allready good...

 

[Asodimazze]

Confirming b121 into pngrc, f2 is so much easier now, great!

 

[KuralKing]

Have some shame people, all of you bandwagon players over hyping these changes, you will all realize that playing F/T is not peanut & butter.

 

[KidVanDal]

Soooo that happened...
@EGP Wonder_Chef posted this on twitter.

 

[WiseTree]

Soooo that happened...
@EGP Wonder_Chef posted this on twitter.

That's so stronk . I really feel like ruthless, while it could use some more tools for meter than it currently has, did not need the ferra projectile launching. While this is of course with all the stacks of png, it's really not that difficult to get to 3 stacks to warrant the option of 1 bar 70% combos. I feel like ferra projectile launching would be more balanced if it was vicious exclusive. Opinions?

 

[Jolt]

That's so stronk . I really feel like ruthless, while it could use some more tools for meter than it currently has, did not need the ferra projectile launching. While this is of course with all the stacks of png, it's really not that difficult to get to 3 stacks to warrant the option of 1 bar 70% combos. I feel like ferra projectile launching would be more balanced if it was vicious exclusive. Opinions?

I 100% agree. I don't think this was a change that Ruthless needed. Give it to VIcious, let Lackey keep its beta buffs, and just send Ruthless back to where it was before (With PnG cancels).

That said:

Do any strings into the OH or Low Ferra toss have gaps?
Is there a timing to fuzzy the mixup?

If there are gaps and/or it can be fuzzied, things might be ok. I think the character (especially Ruthless) is really strong now, but there's a good chance some of this is kneejerk

 

[Skedar70]

Soooo that happened...
@EGP Wonder_Chef posted this on twitter.

Was this with all 3 PNG stacks.

That's so stronk . I really feel like ruthless, while it could use some more tools for meter than it currently has, did not need the ferra projectile launching. While this is of course with all the stacks of png, it's really not that difficult to get to 3 stacks to warrant the option of 1 bar 70% combos. I feel like ferra projectile launching would be more balanced if it was vicious exclusive. Opinions?

Yes I play F/T and I feel this is OP. Maybe Vicious exclusive is more balanced. I don't mind if it stays.

 

[dennycascade]

That's so stronk . I really feel like ruthless, while it could use some more tools for meter than it currently has, did not need the ferra projectile launching. While this is of course with all the stacks of png, it's really not that difficult to get to 3 stacks to warrant the option of 1 bar 70% combos. I feel like ferra projectile launching would be more balanced if it was vicious exclusive. Opinions?

I'd be fine with that since b121 PnG f2 finally works. I feel like NRS is gonna pull some kano shit, giving us this amazing stuff then taking it away and leaving it worse than before. They'll probably make the EX low and overhead full combo punishable and in the process make the regular ones unsafe too lol.

 

[buyacushun]

Well the thing is they said the KP2 is the last Major patch and other than small fixes, a hotfix, or a small update this is it. End of the road.

Game very well may end up less balanced in the final version than the current version.

I had no clue they said this was the last update. Well hopefully they get it right. But I don't see why they'd put on all this work and still just stop. I mean they put in more than they usually do.

 

[KidVanDal]

Was this with all 3 PNG stacks.



Yes I play F/T and I feel this is OP. Maybe Vicious exclusive is more balanced. I don't mind if it stays.

Dunno, ask chef.
I think he did a 50-something combo with one stack though. Check his twitter.

 

[Asodimazze]

Nothing OP about that, it is like blood god hitting the opponent for a ton of damage.
3png stacks and a bar are required, it really doesn't change much considering you can already get around 65% for no bar in regular MK X

 

[Skedar70]

I don't think this will live. We shouldn't get excited about this until the official patch release. Most of us agree this is kind of broken.

 

[TackyHaddock]

Soooo that happened...
@EGP Wonder_Chef posted this on twitter.

I already didn't know what to do against this character before the buffs. Now I'm truly fucked!

 

[Jolt]

Guys. Guys. It's fine. If the attack misses, Ferra isn't on his back and he gets the awesome d1.

It's balanced. Chill.

 

[Skedar70]

Guys. Guys. It's fine. If the attack misses, Ferra isn't on his back and he gets the awesome d1.

It's balanced. Chill.

phew I was so worried there for a second I thought we were going to the tier pit with these crazy nerfs.

 

[KidVanDal]

Didn't want to stir things up. Remember that all of this is subject to change.

It's a beta!

 

[Wetdoba]

The EX tosses have to be vicious exclusive or else ruthless will be OP, I dont know what NRS was thinking. They already buffed ruthless by letting them combo into command grab on a confirm from B121 and by nerfing top tiers. Vicious actually benifits from this since it needed some way to spend meter to boost damage. Ruhless already gets damage from the damage boost, letting them stack damage boost and EX combo extenders is straight broke. Ruthless could easily be number 1 right now. Hopefully they realize this and take the EX tosses away from ruthless by the end of the beta. If they do that the character will still be in the top 10 discussion but wont be retarded

 

[Odyessus]

This is BS. He was already A+ now we have to deal with safe 50/50 pop ups. I know it shows the ex overhead toss is negative but could somebody test that? It'll be complete BS if it's not only a 50/50 but also safe.

Sorry venting here.

 

[ismael4790]

Nrs is destroying the top tier characters...while putting another characters up there. Giving tools to characters that don't need it, and denying tools to those who desperately need them. Nonsense.

I wonder if nrs team knows the meaning of the word "balance".