Tech - Cybernetic Cybernetic Kano Pseudo Vortex(Includes guaranteed Block Strings)

[bdizzle2700]

Hey Guise! Just wanted to show this off for a while now. So if its been known, go suck eggs. I've seen some Kanos do a variation of this but just kinda wanted to show it off in its glory.

Gist: Ending in s2 leaves you +29 which is plenty to let you do any string you want. They can't armor(until it's your turn), some characters might be able to backdash(When there's a gap). You can keep it going if you like but i don't recommend it. Also, in the corner ending with a 1+3 string lets you do a quick run 32(-1) which is 3% and you can mix that up with ex knives for more chip and plus frames.

Other note: Different starters make the damage different. 112 eye laser 2(19%), but using b1 drops it to 15%. if you do b1 into say a grab it would be a total 27%(more than if you just finished the combo).

Downside: You lose your combo damage for something that may or may not pay off. This is mostly to show some extra options Kano has and to catch people sleeping.

 

[Dja_Homies]

This tech Is very interesting and quite complex to add more mind games to kanos already solid neutral with more plus frames on hit. It works wonders since it worked on me as well when I was disrespectful or felt armor abusive during the set. Great video as well.

 

[SaltShaker]

@bdizzle2700 do you ever play Cutthroat? I can think of a use or two for this there also.

 

[bdizzle2700]

@bdizzle2700 do you ever play Cutthroat? I can think of a use or two for this there also.

No haha cuttbill. Off the top of my head he can probably use this more but i dont spend enough time with it to make it more viable

 

[Jonnyboyy18]

Yo man nice tech. we definitely need to run some games sometime.

 

[DrManhattan]

HE DOES NOT HAVE A FRICKEN OVERHEAD!!!!

 

[bdizzle2700]

HE DOES NOT HAVE A FRICKEN OVERHEAD!!!!

Lol i know, i know. Its the safe version of scorpions vortex.

 

[bdizzle2700]

Yo man nice tech. we definitely need to run some games sometime.

Def bro! Its been a while

 

[Youphemism]

Hmm not sure how I feel about this tech. You're dropping an already below average damage combo for even LESS net damage even with a throw :/ Also anyone who knows what they're doing against Cybernetic should always be blocking low so RIP F33 gimmick lol. Not sure about using F33~ex knives too since people most likely will just sit and block it but 11~ex knives could be kinda decent if you're playing against an opponent who knows about the gap in 112 Good idea but unfortunately I think Cybernetic just lacks the offensive options to really bring out the best in this kind of setup, would definitely be better for Cutthroat since you have better pressure and mixup options in that variation but no laser so we'll just have to keep on going with what we have!

 

[bdizzle2700]

Hmm not sure how I feel about this tech. You're dropping an already below average damage combo for even LESS net damage even with a throw :/ Also anyone who knows what they're doing against Cybernetic should always be blocking low so RIP F33 gimmick lol. Not sure about using F33~ex knives too since people most likely will just sit and block it but 11~ex knives could be kinda decent if you're playing against an opponent who knows about the gap in 112 Good idea but unfortunately I think Cybernetic just lacks the offensive options to really bring out the best in this kind of setup, would definitely be better for Cutthroat since you have better pressure and mixup options in that variation but no laser so we'll just have to keep on going with what we have!

Fun fact 11 ex knives is a true string. That or the cpu doesn't want to reversal it for what ever reason. Its why i did f33 lol. Its hit only( off the top of my head) is tbe only string that has a gap bo matter what you cancel it to. I get 25% with b13 laser 112 ball. So technically b13 laser s2(15) grab(12) nets you 2% more. Its def not the bees knees but its something to try out every once in a while. Some ppl just dont respect kano , so catching them off guard is nice.

 

[Phosferrax]

It's a cool idea but simply leaves too much damage on the table. With MU knowledge it's just a guess between a string or a throw, and imagine guessing wrong and realising you just halfed your damage output for the opponent to block your follow up.

 

[tafka Djinn]

Some ppl just dont respect kano , so catching them off guard is nice.

95% of my Kano wins right there, not even going to lie.

I messed around with using this for a while, but it's really just too much damage to sacrifice in my opinion. I mean, I really like the idea of it, but I don't see anyway to really capitalize on this without leaving an insane amount of damage.

 

[Youphemism]

Fun fact 11 ex knives is a true string. That or the cpu doesn't want to reversal it for what ever reason. Its why i did f33 lol. Its hit only( off the top of my head) is tbe only string that has a gap bo matter what you cancel it to. I get 25% with b13 laser 112 ball. So technically b13 laser s2(15) grab(12) nets you 2% more. Its def not the bees knees but its something to try out every once in a while. Some ppl just dont respect kano , so catching them off guard is nice.

Yeah that's why I'm saying it could be good from that string If someone knows the matchup they'll know Kano's moves have good advantage on hit and should be respecting it so they won't even risk armouring which is a problem. Good to hear that there's at least one setup with more damage but it's unfortunate that's it's only if you land the throw and it's only 2%. As fun as potential damage is that's not guaranteed. If Cybernetic gets the damage buff(s) it needs in KP2 I reckon I might see more use for this but unfortunately right now it needs all the damage it can get so it really should be going for max damage whenever possible. This should be good to look back on though if it gets buffed so we can see what strings this'll be worth it from! But you never know, if somehow more Kanos pop up and they're playing someone who doesn't know the matchup they might do this and catch someone out for now. We'll see

 

[bdizzle2700]

It's a cool idea but simply leaves too much damage on the table. With MU knowledge it's just a guess between a string or a throw, and imagine guessing wrong and realising you just halfed your damage output for the opponent to block your follow up.

Tbf scorpion does the same but its unsafe (with spear) or f2 which is techinally punishable just depends on range.

 

[bdizzle2700]

95% of my Kano wins right there, not even going to lie.

I messed around with using this for a while, but it's really just too much damage to sacrifice in my opinion. I mean, I really like the idea of it, but I don't see anyway to really capitalize on this without leaving an insane amount of damage.

True. Im def not saying this is the best thing sinnce sliced bread. Just the concept honestly. They have to hold it. Its safe and depending what you want its plus. Its prolly really good for inpatient players who expect turns .players who know the match through and through wont be caught in this.

 

[bdizzle2700]

Yeah that's why I'm saying it could be good from that string If someone knows the matchup they'll know Kano's moves have good advantage on hit and should be respecting it so they won't even risk armouring which is a problem. Good to hear that there's at least one setup with more damage but it's unfortunate that's it's only if you land the throw and it's only 2%. As fun as potential damage is that's not guaranteed. If Cybernetic gets the damage buff(s) it needs in KP2 I reckon I might see more use for this but unfortunately right now it needs all the damage it can get so it really should be going for max damage whenever possible. This should be good to look back on though if it gets buffed so we can see what strings this'll be worth it from! But you never know, if somehow more Kanos pop up and they're playing someone who doesn't know the matchup they might do this and catch someone out for now. We'll see

Yeah fair enough lolz. I just thought id share. At scr i was watching coach steve and scar play casuals and he did this but ended it in 11(+24) and went for a grab and scar armored. I just thought if he went for a string would that have still happened? I def don't know but if he didnt he woulda either gotten a combo or been safe. Its really a low risk low reward scenerio.

 

[Phosferrax]

Tbf scorpion does the same but its unsafe (with spear) or f2 which is techinally punishable just depends on range.

Scorpion does it from a 34% which gives another 30% if he guesses right into the same situation., not 19%,

 

[oaoo94]

I don't know. I think it'll be a good a gimmick to throw out there once or twice. But like someone already said above. Anyone who knows what they're doing against Cybernetic will be blocking low all day.

The only thing I see good coming from this, is the mind games from the grab.

 

[The Highlander]

Scorpion does it from a 34% which gives another 30% if he guesses right into the same situation., not 19%,

More like cassie then.

 

[sn_meruem]

This is some cool tech, i'm gonna try this. I'm sure it'll catch quite a few people off guard

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

HE DOES NOT HAVE A FRICKEN OVERHEAD!!!!

maybe and I also like cutthroat but man! B1 on block in cybernetic give you many options like, throw ; B1 ; B1,3 ; B1,3 ex knifes ; NJP ; D4 if you use all of them your opponent will be crazy, especially when you do many throws and when he read a throw and want punish you but you take him with NJP

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

cool tech, I want it for cutthroat too but don't work
I will be really happy when cutthroat brutality will work on airborn opponents to do that in a 60% combo, it's very stupid that it didn't work because kano make opponent stand on the ground. Does someone can report it to Boon ? Peace

 

[bdizzle2700]

Scorpion does it from a 34% which gives another 30% if he guesses right into the same situation., not 19%,

I mean yeah and no. Ninjitsu uses f2(mid) or grab. He can use b3(low) spear. Both technically unsafe. This is safe and i dont recommend looping it but you can. Its mostly the s2, then,(my fav) f33 laser then finish the combo. That nets you more and puts you into the corner. Its one of those use once to set the pace. You could end it do s2 s2 for plus frames then grab. You can do s2 b1 to beat alot of non armored options.

 

[bdizzle2700]

I don't know. I think it'll be a good a gimmick to throw out there once or twice. But like someone already said above. Anyone who knows what they're doing against Cybernetic will be blocking low all day.

The only thing I see good coming from this, is the mind games from the grab.

The only gimmick is trying to loop it. Then its not worth it. Like i put above ending in the s2 then another s2 is plus 2(lol) they have to hold those plus frames. After that do whats best in that situatuon.

 

[SaltShaker]

Ever since I saw this I've been trying to apply it in Cutt. It's good for when you're throwing out close pokes since it's +2 on block, but on hit you can insta RC into a 50/50 and the have to guess. More options is always good.