TYM's collective Character placement after 8-31 patch(updated)

[ienjoywinning]

can you tell me where?

my goal here is to get the majority to agree on placement as much as possible and ill change acordingly???

PS. his hat would be one reason
also i had outlaw above then others said gun was better.

if we can work together?

I think id just list all 3 of his variations close to each other but marksman is basiclly outlaw , its way too down , outlaw has abit more to offer than gunslinger.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

I don't mind at all! My psn is right there
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lol

sadly i have XB1 only ATM

 

[Youphemism]

Tier lists are bad, and this is one is definitely no exception. Full of huge mistakes. You should only post one if you actually have experience with every character and know enough about them to be able to back up your opinion. The only good thing about this thread is that you listed it by variation though which is what we should be doing instead of insinuating one variation makes every character.

Kano is C Tier all around? I guess someone has to pick up the "Downplay Kano" mantle, I just wish it was someone like @Youphemism, who is a real pessimistic Patty when it comes to Kano

Wait what? You think I'M the downplayer of the Kano community?!

 

[exflyingbooty]

I dont think you realize how good sorcerer is he actually covers some of summoners bad mus very well i think it has abit more to offer its just that summoner is easier to win with.

He is really good, but i'm not gonna say he's s-tier

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Tier lists are bad, and this is one is definitely no exception. You should only post one if you actually have experience with every character and know enough about them to be able to back up your opinion. The only good thing about this thread is that you listed it by variation though which is what we should be doing instead of insinuating one variation makes every character.

Wait what? You think I'M the downplayer of the Kano community?!

any thought on the placement of tier lists?

 

[CJKRattlehead]

The ruthless buff helped a lot but b tier? Would barely consider ruthless stronger than his other variations

 

[MadeOfMetal]

The ruthless buff helped a lot but b tier? Would barely consider ruthless stronger than his other variations

care to explain?

 

[GAV]

Tier lists are bad, and this is one is definitely no exception. Full of huge mistakes. You should only post one if you actually have experience with every character and know enough about them to be able to back up your opinion. The only good thing about this thread is that you listed it by variation though which is what we should be doing instead of insinuating one variation makes every character.

Wait what? You think I'M the downplayer of the Kano community?!

...but if more people put themselves out there like this, we would be much closer to having clearer vision across all plains.

If they think you're a downplayer, they're mixing you up with the guys you argue with.

 

[DFC]

Tier lists are bad, and this is one is definitely no exception. Full of huge mistakes. You should only post one if you actually have experience with every character and know enough about them to be able to back up your opinion. The only good thing about this thread is that you listed it by variation though which is what we should be doing instead of insinuating one variation makes every character.

Wait what? You think I'M the downplayer of the Kano community?!

Yes that's how sarcasm works.

 

[CJKRattlehead]

care to explain?

Same disadvantages as vicious without the boss toss and roughly the same damage punishes as lackey (without at least 2 stacks) the meter build and potential damage are what set it ahead for me.

 

[GAV]

Jax's reaction to not being S Tier...

 

[GAV]

JC took his low ranking even harder...

 

[GAV]

Torr took it pretty hard too...

 

[ConquaY]

As a brawler main, I am appalled that brawler is higher than Hollywood. Hollywood is by far her best variation and is 100% A tier while brawler is at the most on the low side of A tier I feel. Hollywood has better corner damage, vortex and instant air guns; there is no way brawler is better as all she really gets is better mix ups and more mid screen damage (2%), which is still good but no where near the level Hollywood is at.

 

[youthinkyoubadyouaintbad]

I just edited my previous post explaining why I think Wrestler is the best. You ninja'd me lol.

I personally think the RCs are a bit overrated since the most commonly used are negative and the few that are plus are highs. They do provide good mindgames like you said, but against wrestler, you cant block forever which will cause people to press buttons more often or risk getting grabbed.

I play all 3 variations btw with Wrestler as my go to, HW for MU Specifics, and Pumped Up for Sub Zero.

Tyrant thinks HW is best. Checkmate

 

[The Celebrity]

I feel like @ESG Jagged just looked over the last patch notes and anyone that got a slight buff went up 2 tiers and anyone that got a slight nerf went down 2 without any knowledge or testing.

 

[Youphemism]

any thought on the placement of tier lists?

I don't get what you mean.

Yes that's how sarcasm works.

Well it didn't come across that sarcastically...

 

[lm Tweakk]

Cassie S tier af

 

[GAV]

As a brawler main, I am appalled that brawler is higher than Hollywood. Hollywood is by far her best variation and is 100% A tier while brawler is at the most on the low side of A tier I feel. Hollywood has better corner damage, vortex and instant air guns; there is no way brawler is better as all she really gets is better mix ups and more mid screen damage (2%), which is still good but no where near the level Hollywood is at.

Yet, you choose to use Brawler...

 

[MadeOfMetal]

I don't get what you mean.

...

i mean tell me what you think is out of place, why and what variation should be in a-d

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Yet, you choose to use Brawler...

omg gav your gif crack me up...lol that shit is off the hhok, where did you find that one?

 

[ConquaY]

Yet, you choose to use Brawler...

I play for fun against friends and online and I love the brutality. Sue me. But I would be stupid not to realize when a character/variation outclasses another and in Hollywoods case it is just plain to see how much better it is than Brawler.

 

[Youphemism]

i mean tell me what you think is out of place, why and what variation should be in a-d

I mean I could but what does it achieve? Everyone has different opinions. I'll just point out the ones are wildly inaccurate rather than all of the even slightly inaccurate ones because there's more than a few of those.

GM Sub is not as low as B tier, nor is Venomous D'Vorah, A-List Johnny, Shotgun Jacqui, Ronin Takeda or any of Cassie's variations for that matter.
Kanos variations are not all C tier, nor is Bojutsu Kung Jin, Hellfire/Ninjutsu Scorpion, Slasher Jason, Pyro Tanya or Warrior Predator.
Lackey and Vicious Ferra/Torr are NOT D tier, and neither is Fisticuffs Johnny.

And that's just the ones that are really off, I'm not even going to get into all the ones that are even slightly wrong. It looks like you just made the thread for the sake of it because if you truly think some characters are that good or that bad then you should probably look at some of them a lot more before deciding to post a tier list, ESPECIALLY since it's only been two weeks since the patch was actually released.

 

[Raidenwins]

I disagree strongly w where u put kotal. I made my own fun little list to see what people might think:
S
Predator
Quan Chi
A+
Cassie Cage
Tanya
D'vorah
A
Kung Lao
Shinnok
Jaqui Briggs
Erron Black
Jax
Sonya
Raiden
B
Reptile
Kung Jin
Liu Kang
Sub-Zero
C+
Kitana
Takeda
Tremor
Scorpion
C
Johnny Cage
Mileena
Ermac
Kano
D
Kotal Kahn
Kenshi
Ferra/Torr
Goro
Jason

I would like as much feedback as possible plz, this is just my opinion and would like to know where people stand. Btw this is assuming the characters best variation, in all honesty im just too lazy to make a full variation list. Feel free to ask me why i put a character in a certain area, I'll be happy to explain. Ty

Lol so you are too lazy to take the time to do a proper list, but you expect people to take the time to give you feedback. Umm k.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

I mean I could but what does it achieve? Everyone has different opinions. I'll just point out the ones are wildly inaccurate rather than all of the even slightly inaccurate ones because there's more than a few of those.

GM Sub is not as low as B tier, nor is Venomous D'Vorah, A-List Johnny, Shotgun Jacqui, Ronin Takeda or any of Cassie's variations for that matter.
Kanos variations are not all C tier, nor is Bojutsu Kung Jin, Hellfire/Ninjutsu Scorpion, Slasher Jason, Pyro Tanya or Warrior Predator.
Lackey and Vicious Ferra/Torr are NOT D tier, and neither is Fisticuffs Johnny.

And that's just the ones that are really off, I'm not even going to get into all the ones that are even slightly wrong. It looks like you just made the thread for the sake of it because if you truly think some characters are that good or that bad then you should probably look at some of them a lot more before deciding to post a tier list, ESPECIALLY since it's only been two weeks since the patch was actually released.

help make it then, it seems on TYM there is never a time to make a tier list, there is gonna be patches fr awhile, 2 weeks- month is to short, even 6months into a game is still to new. but consider there may be changes up to the very end where most end up leaving like mk9 due to online... im hoping the community together gets it close enough to a tier that most can agree on.