Online Complains/Rants About Etiquette, Players, Netcode, Desyncs etc!!

[Zoidberg747]

Still dont get what people take from disconnecting their internet after every loss and preserving their record. And teabagging, how big of a douchebag do you have to be to do that bullshit?

Zonning in general seems to be the name of the game now a days, at least online. Hell ive even run into Johhny Cages online that just run back and try to zone. Its kinda depressing.

You cant complain when you lose to a zoner, if you are using sub zero, throw out iceballs, they will hit your opponent even if their projectile hits you. If not try EX iceball. And larry if you play Jax do EX dash punch to get through projectiles, and once your in their face do F4, 1 gotcha grab to continue pressure.

 

[Wildabeast]

You cant complain when you lose to a zoner, if you are using sub zero, throw out iceballs, they will hit your opponent even if their projectile hits you. If not try EX iceball. And larry if you play Jax do EX dash punch to get through projectiles, and once your in their face do F4, 1 gotcha grab to continue pressure.

I dont remember complaining about losing to zoning, I was just making some observations. Number 1; Zonning seems to be pretty popular now a days and Number 2; Maining Sub Zero sure is becoming a chore because of it. Trading with Ice ball isn't so easy against good zoners btw.

 

[Wildabeast]

I don't even care about teabaging that much. What bothers me is when I get into a match full of lag and dropped inputs, still beat the person a couple times, then they get one bs win and leave.

 

[AngryWorm]

I don't even care about teabaging that much. What bothers me is when I get into a match full of lag and dropped inputs, still beat the person a couple times, then they get one bs win and leave.

Like, x9000

I have no time for people who play one game and leave, or you beat them 6-7 times and they beat you once and run. The only time that's acceptable is if they legit have to go. Nothing makes me angrier, which is why I despise Ranked matches.

/end rant

 

[XUtilityGirl]

I don't even care about teabaging that much. What bothers me is when I get into a match full of lag and dropped inputs, still beat the person a couple times, then they get one bs win and leave.

If the first match was laggy you could always click no to not continue to play shitty matchs

 

[Wildabeast]

Yeah this happens all the time to me; I'll input a wake up attack and it won't come out, ill input slide and instead get a F4, etc. Sometimes I don't know why I even play this game online anymore.

 

[3PiecesOfBread]

Pullers and win padders aside, does anyone really hold any merit to someone's record online?

Reason I ask, at the risk of contradicting myself, is because I try to seek out people with really good records to fight against. I'd rather lose 20 times in a row to a better player and learn something from it than win 100 times vs. some scrub and learn nothing from it.

The flip side of this though is when I take a beating from a better player, I'll keep fighting them over and over, racking up loss after loss. I don't mind the actual losing part, but at the same time, if I fight better players too much, my record is going to look like shit eventually (it's currently about 1200-900, and used to have a much better W:L ratio). I don't know about other people, but if someone with a really bad record challenges me, I'll usually decline it because I'm looking for a higher level player to fight.

I guess the point of this post is that I hate the W/L record system in this game, because it doesn't take into account the skill of the person you're winning or losing against. I'd much rather this game have a BP/PP system like SSF4 does, since it allows you to repeatedly fight better players without destroying your score, and vice versa.

 

[THTB]

Not necessarily, but more often than not, I find larger total fights in general lead to generally better players in my experience.

 

[Fenro]

does anyone really hold any merit to someone's record online?

Anyone playing competitively shouldn´t and most of them dont. reasons for this are obvious.
Always two sides though, casuals on some cases look up to good W/L ratio because they really don´t understand how online affects skilled game play.
For me online is just a reference and meta data check up place. used it to accustom myself to different match ups and polish characters execution.

Reason I ask, at the risk of contradicting myself, is because I try to seek out people with really good records to fight against. I'd rather lose 20 times in a row to a better player and learn something from it than win 100 times vs. some scrub and learn nothing from it.

Sadly always fighting the guys with good W/L ratio doesn´t mean you are facing a person that uses "pro" tactics. the online environment is infested by players that rack up great W/L ratio with styles that would not never work against competent player offline (see my thread about lag setups)

my record is going to look like shit eventually (it's currently about 1200-900, and used to have a much better W:L ratio).

If you are searching to make a name out of yourself stop focusing on online score and try to get into local tourneys and compete were it matters

Hope this shed some light.

 

[Rockrobs215]

My record is heavily in the negative (1000+ wins to almost 4000 loses). That's a lot of games I fucked up in, but most everyone I play respects my play and skill. In other words, don't worry about whether your record will limit the good players to challenge you. I don't even play random people anymore since I'm friends with most of the best players on Xbox Live. Very rarely will you be scrubbed out or something.

Do I miss out on fighting some good players? Of course, but I rather not waste time with playing people who aren't going to help me learn, nor will they try to learn from me.

Long story short, I personally find it better to just friend a bunch of really good, tried and true, players, and you should learn plenty from them with the right variety of character specialists.

Online records won't prove your true skill, but it can increase your knowledge of the game so as to earn overall.

I miss being on Live

 

[AK Toxic]

Offline casuals and leveling up > Online matches.
That's just my opinion but online changes so many things, don't want to get started on that.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Mines 2nd on the leaderboard and I dont give a shit about it Just play

 

[saix88]

I don't know about other people, but if someone with a really bad record challenges me, I'll usually decline it because I'm looking for a higher level player to fight.

So record does mean something to you? What if this really bad record is due to playing really really good people?

 

[AK Toxic]

So record does mean something to you? What if this really bad record is due to playing really really good people?

That could probably go two different ways.
Also, I don't care if they have a bad record if they accept I'm going to play them. It's boring enough going through 10,000 declines until one person accepts.









maybe throw in a babality or two.

 

[AngryWorm]

Yeah, I think it's it "important".

The players with absurd records tend to care too much about them and won't stick around if they think you can beat them/do beat them. Players with realistic records will play you a billion times and tend to be better players (there are a few exceptions).

 

[EndofGameBoss]

I had a group of friends I use to play MK with offline weekly, they have since moved on and I've learned people don't fuck around online. It's everything to them. If they lose prepare for horrible messages. It's sad really. I know it's online and has lag, blah blah blah, but regardless you always want to win, but getting violent is ridiculous.

 

[Roko1985]

Pullers and win padders aside, does anyone really hold any merit to someone's record online?

Reason I ask, at the risk of contradicting myself, is because I try to seek out people with really good records to fight against. I'd rather lose 20 times in a row to a better player and learn something from it than win 100 times vs. some scrub and learn nothing from it.

The flip side of this though is when I take a beating from a better player, I'll keep fighting them over and over, racking up loss after loss. I don't mind the actual losing part, but at the same time, if I fight better players too much, my record is going to look like shit eventually (it's currently about 1200-900, and used to have a much better W:L ratio). I don't know about other people, but if someone with a really bad record challenges me, I'll usually decline it because I'm looking for a higher level player to fight.

I guess the point of this post is that I hate the W/L record system in this game, because it doesn't take into account the skill of the person you're winning or losing against. I'd much rather this game have a BP/PP system like SSF4 does, since it allows you to repeatedly fight better players without destroying your score, and vice versa.

Not important.....trust me. Online is just for fun. From the begining i did care and i had very good result(too good) and nobody wanted to play with me........it took 10 min. to find someone each time. It happened that i won against player with very very good positive W/L and just when i kill them they are disconecting or they don't want to play again, cause they care about their W/L status. Then i started letting them win. Now iam around 2700/2700. And i am keeping it that way 50/50 %. I realy don't care if i win or lose.... the most important is how do you win and how do you lose ...just having fun with random characters......cause i LOVE that game..............sooooo cooooool.......

 

[3PiecesOfBread]

I'm not looking to make a name for myself online or anything like that, I'm fully aware and reminded every time i play that online is a joke. I go to local tournaments and all that. My only problem is that online is my only real source of steady "practice" since most of my tournament buddies live at least an hour away and it's tough to coordinate our schedules to get together as often as we'd like. As much as I hate playing online, it's still way better than practicing vs. AI.

The concern I was voicing in my OP was that I don't want to end up being constantly declined by good players due to a bad record from sticking around to fight more when I lose to good players, as opposed to bailing and going scrub hunting to boost a W/L record that doesn't really mean anything to me.

I'm also aware that the whole point kind of contradicts itself in my post though, since a lot of heavy win people are scrub hunters anyway that will rage quit on a loss and flood your inbox with more rage and spam QQ.

There are some legit ones though. I fought AU_MR_MILEENA online a few days before Devastation. Think I beat him once out of 10 matches, but it was still good stuff, that guy is the real deal.

So record does mean something to you? What if this really bad record is due to playing really really good people?

I meant extremely bad records, like 12/250 or something. I should have clarified that. I've never fought someone with an extremely bad record like that where I couldn't have gotten up and made a sandwich, then sit back down and still win. Basically people whose biggest combos are spear -> uppercut.

 

[Faded Dreams V]

Pullers and win padders aside, does anyone really hold any merit to someone's record online?

Reason I ask, at the risk of contradicting myself, is because I try to seek out people with really good records to fight against. I'd rather lose 20 times in a row to a better player and learn something from it than win 100 times vs. some scrub and learn nothing from it.

The flip side of this though is when I take a beating from a better player, I'll keep fighting them over and over, racking up loss after loss. I don't mind the actual losing part, but at the same time, if I fight better players too much, my record is going to look like shit eventually (it's currently about 1200-900, and used to have a much better W:L ratio). I don't know about other people, but if someone with a really bad record challenges me, I'll usually decline it because I'm looking for a higher level player to fight.

I guess the point of this post is that I hate the W/L record system in this game, because it doesn't take into account the skill of the person you're winning or losing against. I'd much rather this game have a BP/PP system like SSF4 does, since it allows you to repeatedly fight better players without destroying your score, and vice versa.

I generally seek out the people with the best record I see in lobbies, but I don't decline challenges from anyone. Sometimes, beginners challenge me, I accept, and no matter how many times they lose, they request rematches, so I random select and play hyper or psycho kombat. It's all in good fun. I am a bit OCD about my record though. Namely, trueskill. Not because it proves my 1337ness or anything, but because I find it fun increasing it. It's like leveling up in an RPG by defeating secret bosses that give huge EXP (top players). lol.

Mines 2nd on the leaderboard and I dont give a shit about it Just play

I'm sure the guy above you is a hacker and booster, so by all means, you're #1 in my eyes. <3

 

[rev0lver]

I received a glimmer of hope from online players today. I played a Kitana mirror in ranked earlier, flawlessed the guy first round and he rage quitted. I sent my usual "u mad?" message, and received this back:

"Nah man you're way better than me I just didn't want to waste your time. I just play this to look for other noobs to beat up on."

First honest message I've ever received.

 

[Temjiin]

I've been dipping in the Beginners lobby through desperation for matches since MW3 was released and it's amazing how much trash is talked on the board.

One guy in particular, Kinetic Demise gets noobs in KOTH and proceeds to teabag everyone mid match then toy with them when he wins, it's pathetic.

 

[ChuckFiasco]

Ragequitting is my personal favorite. I NEVER do it. But when someone does it to me I just send them a simple "ragequit...lolz" message.

 

[ChuckFiasco]

I've been dipping in the Beginners lobby through desperation for matches since MW3 was released and it's amazing how much trash is talked on the board.

One guy in particular, Kinetic Demise gets noobs in KOTH and proceeds to teabag everyone mid match then toy with them when he wins, it's pathetic.

I've played him in 1 vs. 1 a few times. Hes actually a very good player.

 

[Faded Dreams V]

I received a glimmer of hope from online players today. I played a Kitana mirror in ranked earlier, flawlessed the guy first round and he rage quitted. I sent my usual "u mad?" message, and received this back:

"Nah man you're way better than me I just didn't want to waste your time. I just play this to look for other noobs to beat up on."

First honest message I've ever received.

You must have felt like an ass. lol.

 

[JohnyCageWins]

Online records would be meaningful (especially in ranked matches) if people couldn't simply quit at any time to avoid a loss. This key shortcoming in MK9 (and MKAK) renders records moot.