Gaps in strings

[WiseTree]

Hey guise

Having spent a while lurking about on this forum to try and git gud, I noticed that one important thing to understand about your opponent is gaps in their strings. However, to me it seems like it's something fairly difficult - after all, there's many character each of which have many strings. So how do people go about this? Do you, for example, buffer attacks that you know would work both on a gap and after the whole blockstring? Or do you research each string (well, each useful string) of your enemy for gaps and memorise it?

Suspecting that the answer is the latter, I was wondering if lists exist for this kind of thing for different characters, and if they don't, would they be useful to make?

 

[Emperor Eevee]

Hey guise

Having spent a while lurking about on this forum to try and git gud, I noticed that one important thing to understand about your opponent is gaps in their strings. However, to me it seems like it's something fairly difficult - after all, there's many character each of which have many strings. So how do people go about this? Do you, for example, buffer attacks that you know would work both on a gap and after the whole blockstring? Or do you research each string (well, each useful string) of your enemy for gaps and memorise it?

Suspecting that the answer is the latter, I was wondering if lists exist for this kind of thing for different characters, and if they don't, would they be useful to make?

There's not really a compiled list, but there could be one if someone is willing to do every string with every character while setting Reptile to reversal slide or Cassie to reversal get away flip.

 

[smokey]

We have a bunch noted on our frame data charts, though there is probably missing ones! Check the Notes column. www.mkxframedata.com

 

[WiseTree]

There's not really a compiled list, but there could be one if someone is willing to do every string with every character while setting Reptile to reversal slide or Cassie to reversal get away flip.

Cool, the reason why I made this post is actually because I was going to go ahead and try to make the list, but then I realised that I'm not actually sure if that's how people go about checking the gaps in the first place.

More importantly, would such a list be useful at all? Or is it a kind of information that is easy enough to obtain which would outweigh the time required to compile/maintain such a list?

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Ill make it

 

[Braindead]

http://testyourmight.com/threads/list-of-all-interruptible-strings-in-mkx.50196/

Not sure what was changed after this week's patch, but it should mostly still be correct.

 

[WiseTree]

We have a bunch noted on our frame data charts, though there is probably missing ones! Check the Notes column. www.mkxframedata.com

Cool, awesome stuff!

As a side note, are gaps normalised in mkx, or is there a different amount of frames that you can fit things in for each gap?

Ill make it

Doesn't seem like it's necessary, since @smokey already has that.

 

[Braindead]

As a side note, are gaps normalised in mkx, or is there a different amount of frames that you can fit things in for each gap?

Gaps have different sizes, some are as small as 1 frame, and some go up to more than 6 frames.

 

[Emperor Eevee]

http://testyourmight.com/threads/list-of-all-interruptible-strings-in-mkx.50196/

Not sure what was changed after this week's patch, but it should mostly still be correct.

Haha, did not know thise existed since I just started getting on here again, as of late. Thanks for posting this.

 

[WiseTree]

http://testyourmight.com/threads/list-of-all-interruptible-strings-in-mkx.50196/

Not sure what was changed after this week's patch, but it should mostly still be correct.

It seems to me like there's quite a few very useful resources like that kind of hidden away somewhere in the forums. Does TYM not have any page where threads with useful things like that are kept?

 

[Rearawt]

There are lists in the subsections of characters who have parries

Like Commando Kano: http://testyourmight.com/threads/commando-kanos-parry-able-strings-misc.54950/
Kotal Kahn: http://testyourmight.com/threads/parry-everything-well-almost-everything.55802/

 

[Braindead]

It seems to me like there's quite a few very useful resources like that kind of hidden away somewhere in the forums. Does TYM not have any page where threads with useful things like that are kept?

This new feature was added a few weeks ago, but it's still not very popular, and the thread that were created before it was added are still lost in the forums:

http://testyourmight.com/resources/

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Cool, awesome stuff!

As a side note, are gaps normalised in mkx, or is there a different amount of frames that you can fit things in for each gap?




Doesn't seem like it's necessary, since @smokey already has that.

Ahh ok

 

[WiseTree]

This new feature was added a few weeks ago, but it's still not very popular, and the thread that were created before it was added are still lost in the forums:

http://testyourmight.com/resources/

Damn, that's pretty cool. As a user, can you do something to get a thread in there? I feel like the thread for the mkxframedata.com (I think that is a thing?) should very much be there.

 

[smokey]

@Rearawt @Braindead Gonna scour through these threads and make sure everythings on mkxframedata.com as far as strings go.

 

[Braindead]

Damn, that's pretty cool. As a user, can you do something to get a thread in there? I feel like the thread for the mkxframedata.com (I think that is a thing?) should very much be there.

I don't think they can fit the spreadsheets of mkxframedata.com on TYM, and I think the website is good enough to be on it's own anyway.

Also I'm not sure about a user getting a normal thread into a resource, you can ask a mod about that. But I think the mod will ask the person who created the thread to re-format it and make sure it looks good for the resource, it should require some work I think.

 

[Braindead]

@Rearawt @Braindead Gonna scour through these threads and make sure everythings on mkxframedata.com as far as strings go.

The thread I linked is a bit old so it might be outdated and missing something, take it with a grain of salt.

At first glance I noticed that they missed Ermac's F2 1 * D2 string, so it might not be a perfect list.

 

[WiseTree]

I don't think they can fit the spreadsheets of mkxframedata.com on TYM, and I think the website is good enough to be on it's own anyway.

Also I'm not sure about a user getting a normal thread into a resource, you can ask a mod about that. But I think the mod will ask the person who created the thread to re-format it and make sure it looks good for the resource, it should require some work I think.

I was not suggesting to put the spreadsheets on tym, but a pointer to the spreadsheets.

 

[Braindead]

I was not suggesting to put the spreadsheets on tym, but a pointer to the spreadsheets.

Ah, there's a thread about it:

http://www.testyourmight.com/threads/www-mkxframedata-com-live.53342/

 

[smokey]

The thread I linked is a bit old so it might be outdated and missing something, take it with a grain of salt.

At first glance I noticed that they missed Ermac's F2 1 * D2 string, so it might not be a perfect list.

Ive added everything from the threads, should all be good as far as gaps in strings go. I know theres a bit of frame data to update with the patch now though, so will look into getting everything up to date.

 

[WiseTree]

Ah, there's a thread about it:

http://www.testyourmight.com/threads/www-mkxframedata-com-live.53342/

@smokey do you think you could put something like that thread into the resources? I feel like such a massively useful resource should definitely be there.

 

[smokey]

@smokey do you think you could put something like that thread into the resources? I feel like such a massively useful resource should definitely be there.

I can have a look into it, sure!

 

[Rearawt]

@Rearawt @Braindead Gonna scour through these threads and make sure everythings on mkxframedata.com as far as strings go.

I wouldn't be too quick about it. Some of them are likely outdated due to Monday's patch

 

[smokey]

http://testyourmight.com/resources/mkx-frame-data-project.7/ is now in the resources, not sure how popular that is among users but its another good place to find it!

@Rearawt we update it with every patch so we will be doing the testing and checks soon!