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Video/Tutorial - Dragons Fire Liu Kang Pseudo block infinite explained

I agree that cancels without stamina should be negative but everything else should be left alone imo. DF doesn't have anything else going for him. DF does not have the strong zoning that FF has and FF doesn't have the pressure DF has. So before you say Liu still has other options, break him down by variations please. Plus 2 means nothing in this game when there's armor involved. If you're worried about b12, just block because that string alone has gap at the end of it.
 

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
I agree that cancels without stamina should be negative but everything else should be left alone imo. DF doesn't have anything else going for him. DF does not have the strong zoning that FF has and FF doesn't have the pressure DF has. So before you say Liu still has other options, break him down by variations please. Plus 2 means nothing in this game when there's armor involved. If you're worried about b12, just block because that string alone has gap at the end of it.
Plus 2 doesn't mean anything is such bullshit. If they think you're going to b12 and decide to just sit there you get another round of cancels in.

And what gap in b12? The string itself has no gap, and the fbrc is plus on block.
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
Yeah back 1 breaks armor but if you're gonna guess when they armor out that's just a read. I don't see any problem with F44. You're the pro though so I respect your opinion. I'm just curious, do you often see this strategy succeed in tournaments? It just strikes me as odd that nobodies seeing results with Dragon Fire.
At the moment I've only seen 1 true dragons fire player, who is yet to debut at a tournament. Tournament placings arent really an accurate way of figuring out which characters are good though.
 

Enexemander

A Hitbox Pirate - YARRR -
Yeah, this is so godlike! Did you see EVO where the top 8 were all Dragon's Fire Liu Kang? I mean, since this is obviously broke, it was a tournament, and big money was on the line, plenty of people were trying to win with anything possible. It sure was the Liu Kang show that day!

Or, maybe because the real world applications of this are far less impressive than training dummy shenanigans.

This community makes me sad. I thought it was going to be a place to level up. Where people would come and learn strategies.

Nope, it's just a nerf/buff brigade bitchfest. The exact kind of shit that gets people to put the game down and say "fuck it" when patch after patch dramatically changes the game.

In closing, Top 8 tournament footage or STFU. I've had enough training dummy videos from Tom Brady to last a lifetime.
 

Enexemander

A Hitbox Pirate - YARRR -
I'm looking through Xarakamaka's youtube trying to find match footage and shit. Does he have any?
Hitbox Godspeed can hit the run cancels every time. If it was so Godlike, why wasn't he on the main stage at EVO? Because he damn sure was competing.
 

Johnny San

Shazzy's Biggest Fan
Mileena gets raped in this matchup.

My only option is to armor. That's all I have and I am a sitting duck if the liu kang player is good.
Would you mind uploading a video of all her options getting blown up? I keep poking out with D3 which means my execution is garbage so I can't test it properly.
 

aieches

#freeHomelee2016
man this is funny..
i do not agree nor disagree with this statement.. but theres no way in hell i can not "like" a face off gif..


well actually.. i do kinda agree with foxy but i think its match up wise... i actually have a harder time vs Kang doing this crap vs Tempest Laos crap . with tempest i can find places to armor or back dash .even njp if i make the right call.. with kang i really just have to eat this crap until a mistake or im close enough to MB an interactable .. yet at the same time its like meter for days for him.

speaking on offense.. Defensive is no question Tempest all day.
 
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AssassiN

Noob
At the moment I've only seen 1 true dragons fire player, who is yet to debut at a tournament. Tournament placings arent really an accurate way of figuring out which characters are good though.
Will you be online on PS4 more? I need to improve a lot as a player.
 

Enexemander

A Hitbox Pirate - YARRR -
Just going to leave this here. In case anyone wants to see just how much Grampa really struggles against the overpowered DF Liu Kang in a competitive environment.


edit- Spoiler alert, the only time he has trouble is when WhiteBl4ck plays smarter than him and gets him to use his stamina on closing, causing FoxyGrampa to drop all his run link combos.

What's that Kung Lao says? Oh yeah "LEARN FROM THIS."