He is a vastly underrated character that could be even better if a lot of his strings didn't miss. I doubt the developers intended for these strings to miss on crouching everyone but Ferra/Torr, Jason and Kotal because they are labeled as 'Mid'. Not High.Johnny Cage = Vastly Underrated character.
Learn2Footsies with Stunt Double and A-list and he's amazing. Hitbox problems will probably be never fixed because this game is wacky like that.
maybe.......Jc mains.....
I'm guessing you guys understand that the strings that whiff are highs and are meant to whiff?
so true man :'[NRS just doesn't care, man. It sucks.
Oh I thought you were complaining about neutral duck whiffNO, they should whiff on neutral crouch, not on block.
alot of character, i mean A LOT, have this hitbox issues, and some of then use this strings a lot( ferra torr b212 and kotal 114).
is like derptile said, do not expect much
i think its bc 11 is quicker but you arent wrong, the other points i agree on tooWhy is everyone talking about cages whiff punishing? F3 is fucking great for that. Imo cages real problems are 114 whiffing. F3 and f34 being way too negative , and not cancellable (f34) , and his laughably slow d3
Yes sir, that is the problem we collectively ask be fixed. Course, this affects a lot of characters, not just Cage.so these are highs missing on crouch block?
Some things cant be punished with an 11 frame mid. But, it's not just the punishing aspect. Let's lay out a hypothetical situation:I don't really understand some of your points, why is having to punish with f3 a burden? I have never had an issue with it
Yeah.. I agree, What I would say you to do, it's get some advantage with a d1, and get some space, to whiff punish her with f34rc. If she blocks, you are only -3, and can get a little spaceSome things cant be punished with an 11 frame mid. But, it's not just the punishing aspect. Let's lay out a hypothetical situation:
You're SDJC fighting Cassie, and she does something like B12 and is at -6. Am I going to start my offense with F3? If I have a clone out that could work, but F3 and F34 are both punishable. I need to use 1,1 or 1,2. Both whiff even when she blocks low.
SDJC cant even start his offense against her safely when she's in negative frames.
Thanks for the explanation, I wasn't aware so many of his moves whiffed, pretty crazySome things cant be punished with an 11 frame mid. But, it's not just the punishing aspect. Let's lay out a hypothetical situation:
You're SDJC fighting Cassie, and she does something like B12 and is at -6. Am I going to start my offense with F3? If I have a clone out that could work, but F3 and F34 are both punishable. I need to use 1,1 or 1,2. Both whiff even when she blocks low.
SDJC cant even start his offense against her safely when she's in negative frames.
Man this is advanced strategy!Yeah.. I agree, What I would say you to do, it's get some advantage with a d1, and get some space, to whiff punish her with f34rc. If she blocks, you are only -3, and can get a little space
Nah man. Nahhh mannnn.Kano community says hi. @SaltShaker
As a wise man once said: "Ice Clone isn't working properly? Goro's in trouble? Better buff Kung Lao."Nah man. Nahhh mannnn.
Gotta keep buffing Sonya, Quan Chi, and Kung Lao other variations. They aren't strong enough.
D1, though a good poke, leaves you at -3. This changes any follow up with standing 1 to, essentially, an 11 frame rebuttal and brings us back to the same issue. And he specifically mentioned Stunt Double as the variation in the example, so run cancelling the 4 in F34 is a no-no.Yeah.. I agree, What I would say you to do, it's get some advantage with a d1, and get some space, to whiff punish her with f34rc. If she blocks, you are only -3, and can get a little space
As some one who's been messing around with stunt double for a while now, this is exactly what has made me consider dropping the variation if not the character.Some things cant be punished with an 11 frame mid. But, it's not just the punishing aspect. Let's lay out a hypothetical situation:
You're SDJC fighting Cassie, and she does something like B12 and is at -6. Am I going to start my offense with F3? If I have a clone out that could work, but F3 and F34 are both punishable. I need to use 1,1 or 1,2. Both whiff even when she blocks low.
SDJC cant even start his offense against her safely when she's in negative frames.