General/Other - Liu Kang What's Liu Kang missing to be top tier?

[UsedForGlue]

Dragons fire fly kicks safe and can be MB'ed for +2 and to get in immediately , he has what are practically block infinites against any1 without a 7f move, his D3 goes under pretty much everything in this game, converts stamina to meter and vice versa.

He's the most fucked up character in the game IMO.

His d3 is +2 cause you have to block it crouching, so hold that extra frame and his B1 becomes a 7f mid, which he can then cancel back into ex bike kick and put himself back at +2 again.

But dude, besides all of that stuff we just mentioned, what does is this character missing to be top tier?

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

He has issues with his girlfriend

 

[Scott The Scot]

He has issues with his girlfriend

I thought they took over the nether realm together. Nah, no issues there ;P

 

[HeroesNZ]

I'm getting hella deja vu right now. I'm around the same people, playing the same 'jack-of-all-trades' type of character with hella plus frames, who's also perfect on paper and considered by others to be some kind of 'secret top-tier'.

Only difference is that Zyphox actually made top 8

 

[dribirut]

He is top tier. I have no doubt about that

 

[dribirut]

Dragons fire fly kicks safe and can be MB'ed for +2 and to get in immediately , he has what are practically block infinites against any1 without a 7f move, his D3 goes under pretty much everything in this game, converts stamina to meter and vice versa.

He's the most fucked up character in the game IMO.

His d3 is +2 cause you have to block it crouching, so hold that extra frame and his B1 becomes a 7f mid, which he can then cancel back into ex bike kick and put himself back at +2 again.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!! But you're not yomi so no one will believe you

 

[RM_Gamer]

He's fine. Top tier just needs to be nerfed

 

[dribirut]

I have him as number 3 in the game

 

[MrSunshine]

I have him as number 3 in the game

Who's one and two?

 

[xInfra Deadx]

New flavor of the month confirmed.

Too bad you guys won't be as hated as Shinnok players are...

 

[dribirut]

New flavor of the month confirmed.

Too bad you guys won't be as hated as Shinnok players are...

Nope, we've been saying this for a while now.

 

[WITNESS]

I have him as number 3 in the game

 

[Derptile]

Dragon's Fire has been fucked up, I've been saying for nearly a month lmao. He is the best rushdown character in this game bar none, throw in his high damage combos, low profiling fireballs and you have an amazing character.

His only problems are that he's pretty free on wakeup, has terrible jumpins, and D2 is his only real AA.

 

[Kickbykick]

LMAO

 

[BoromiRofGeo]

imho liu is already top, probably underexplored slightly. FF on previous patch was undoubtedly broken kabal tier with that 0 frame link.

 

[SixPathsOfHate]

I'm getting hella deja vu right now. I'm around the same people, playing the same 'jack-of-all-trades' type of character with hella plus frames, who's also perfect on paper and considered by others to be some kind of 'secret top-tier'.

Only difference is that Zyphox actually made top 8

Kenshi Kenjutsu has hella potential but isnt all that safe.

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

I thought they took over the nether realm together. Nah, no issues there ;P

I was half joking about that. He actually has issues with Kitana. Flying Dragon kick rarely hits duck blocking Kitana, regardless of distance. In Flamefist the last hit of WP always whiffs (if Kitana was already duck blocking before some last hits) allowing her to D1 to interrupt and your next special move never comes out. That's all I know (my friend main FF)

 

[hardguard]

But dude, besides all of that stuff we just mentioned, what does is this character missing to be top tier?

SMH, so Liu Kang is this stupidly broken and godly character that everyone who went to Evo seems to be sleeping on, besides Zyphox, of course.

Application ≠ theory/numbers/spreadsheets/algebra/etc.

 

[belovedking]

Working hitboxes, a better NJP, EX Spin, and better crossups. He has a very good neutral if you use Low Fireballs like fullscreen pokes, and great pressure. I'm referring to Dragon's Fire btw.

I don't know his MUs well enough to say if he's not top tier, but this is what he's missing IMO.

i don't get the better crossups part, i thought since there is a block button crossups didn't exist

 

[DevilMaySpy]

SMH, so Liu Kang is this stupidly broken and godly character that everyone who went to Evo seems to be sleeping on, besides Zyphox, of course.

Application ≠ theory/numbers/spreadsheets/algebra/etc.

Sonic Fox was saying Batgirl is the best character in Injustice shortly before his one year win streak. Meanwhile, everyone else was complaining about Martian and Aquaman. Unpopular opinions don't automatically make them untrue.

 

[Zabru]

I'm using the base ps4 pad and while it's fine for everything else I can not for the life of me and my soul do iafb with liu kang
I'm gonna get the hori pad for ps4 and see how that goes cause the ps4 pad sucks so hard for sliding motions. What are you guys suing for iafb? I know it's easiest on hitbox but I can't afford one right now.

 

[Peckapowa]

Dragons fire fly kicks safe and can be MB'ed for +2 and to get in immediately , he has what are practically block infinites against any1 without a 7f move, his D3 goes under pretty much everything in this game, converts stamina to meter and vice versa.

He's the most fucked up character in the game IMO.

His d3 is +2 cause you have to block it crouching, so hold that extra frame and his B1 becomes a 7f mid, which he can then cancel back into ex bike kick and put himself back at +2 again.

having a 9 frame in the poke game which blows up armor and leads to frame advantage is pretty good. It's hard to execute but on the frame he's unfair i agree with this and wish i picked him up. I bet xarakamaka is a problem right now.

 

[The_Tile]

I picked up DF a couple of weeks ago and I agree he is probably the second best rushdown, non 50/50 based character character behind Tempest Lao. I'm not sure about how high on the tier list though as like others have said it seems like he has big troubles dealing with characters with good air game, as his anti airs and air to airs are pretty ass. His 6f D2 sound good and all, but when you have characters with jump attacks like Laos or Kotal's Ji2 you simply get beat out most of the time.

 

[Phosferrax]

if they were aware then i would just do ex WP on block everytime, i still build a bar back lmfao. can you explain how i manage to do well against yomi players even though they know all the gaps in my pressure? its because kang is a read based offensive character, i have a counter to ever counter you have, i just have to make the right read, people don't realize this and think i'm getting away with murder lmfao, even if you know the MU and the holes i will probably still do really well against you.

DF is a better variation than FF.

Flame Fist is just more simple and doesn't require the execution.

 

[Peckapowa]

I picked up DF a couple of weeks ago and I agree he is probably the second best rushdown, non 50/50 based character character behind Tempest Lao. I'm not sure about how high on the tier list though as like others have said it seems like he has big troubles dealing with characters with good air game, as his anti airs and air to airs are pretty ass. His 6f D2 sound good and all, but when you have characters with jump attacks like Laos or Kotal's Ji2 you simply get beat out most of the time.

he prob has better rushdown than tempest lao but he doesn't have the same universal tools.