With meter, ex-db3. Without meter, and playing online, you're fucked.
Do the input for Shocker as soon as you finish inputting B3, 2(hold) or F1, 2, B2 (Hold). The window for input seems to start very early and it's small.
I have played Thunder god since I picked up Raiden around the time the game came out. Lately I've been challenging myself to use MoS and Displacer more to raise my understanding of the character as well as look situations where they can outshine thunder god. What I have found the most disappointing in these variations is that what they gain in utility, they lose equally (if not more) in their neutral game. It is hard to not have the pressure and spacing that TG's lightning strings give you. That's my main problem with Displacer, even though my mobility is increased my ability to convert off of this mobility is lacking.
Good point about neutral. I'm gonna suggest a couple buffs for displacer that I don't think he necessarily needs, but could be interesting. Universal: make standing 3 a mid (would help a bit with neutral game and pressure), Displacer: enhanced bobbalay actually restands the character similar to an enhanced grab instead of just adding some damage (I think this one would be really cool and potentially very useful).
S2 Tremor is mid lol but that's the only case I've seen that doesn't follow the same pattern. We just really need a more viable mid. B11 whiffing kills us. I think what makes TG the best now besides being the scariest in the corner, is having the most options from b11. Some characters the only safe mid option you have is b1 shocker which, at worst gives them pressure again
Yeah stand 2 with tremor I think is the only stand punch mid in the game. Several chars have mid standing 3/4 from what I remember though.
Exactly, some characters practically have block infinites vs Raiden
Well I wouldn't go that far, lol. He can use his d1/d3 which get the job done but both are -9 on block which sucks. I've had my low pokes accidentally punished by counter pokes as dumb as that sounds.
Against FT and Mileena it almost feels like an infinte. But the situations that are a real issue are the characters that can full combo your pokes. Cassie, Lao, Shinnok are the only ones that come to mind right off the top of my head. But most importantly, how do you fight around this flaw
The only things I weren't a fan of was not getting a b11 fix and having f1 be a high instead of making f12 be more negative
b2 run and immediately do f24 shock or supes (do supe late or youll fly under, you can also do f2 2+4 or f12b2)
Honestly, Your right displacer not having B3 2 starter hurts dearly not to mention the lack of meter building potential to keep you in the match. I'm a displacer main but have been using TG recently only because he actually is viable. DP and MOS suffer more for the lack of meter. MOS has some crazy input bugs that I think need addressing. DP and MOS can't connect b33 to normal shocker making that low almost useless in. Teleport is way to slow even in the mix up game on hit. However, I recommend playing them in conjunction anyway. It will make a you make the most out of every movement.
b34 shocker/supes etc tho? or just b3 right into shocker to keep them guessing low or high. D has great neutral game and I keep meter building in mind, one good thing is people are used to the TG formula so people have less experience vs D and MOS tricks
.... well if it works, I've notice it whiffs quite often. You also risk being full combo punished when/if blocked. (notice I said when first) I was saying more of the lines of its harder to keep them guessing in those varies because B32 is gone. You gotta make sure you confirm that B3 either way. It helps to try mix it up with 21 pressure but that first 2 is a high so any character thats poke/roll/slide happier will be annoying.
