General/Other - Tanya Tanya SHOULD be normalized.

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Can we stop pretending like the people in top 8 were only there due to Tanya? Those players are always in top 8s and Tanya was the character they chose to get them there. They could have done it with other characters if they wanted.

nerf or buff, I just wanted that to be stated for the record.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Can we stop pretending like the people in top 8 were only there due to Tanya? Those players are always in top 8s and Tanya was the character they chose to get them there. They could have done it with other characters if they wanted.

nerf or buff, I just wanted that to be stated for the record.

I agree with you, but it does speak for the record that, this was her first major and she was probably the first good DLC character to come out so far for this game when released. (Jason and Goro were definitely not, but Goro really shouldn't count.) It was gonna take a lot of people time (EDIT: More than just ECT because most Tanya players didn't know her full capabilities yet), and likely to play against these players or CDJr, to know her true strengths.

But if Ed is already calling the design team... You just gotta hold dat. I don't agree with her being nerfed, only having her teleport adjusted fairly. (No armor, and no invul frames)

But NRS, as you know, loves to butcher things people boo in public.

EDIT: Second major, not first. But she came out literally two weeks and there was a lot to learn for her. She is rather technical.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Ed boon called the design team and told them to do something before EVO. Something will be done before EVO lol.

Where was this said though? On Twitter? Was it said at CEO? I still don't quite know where this is coming from exactly.

 

[SEV]

Ed boon called the design team and told them to do something before EVO. Something will be done before EVO lol.

Right on, hopefully they don't go full Scorpion.

Can we stop pretending like the people in top 8 were only there due to Tanya? Those players are always in top 8s and Tanya was the character they chose to get them there. They could have done it with other characters if they wanted.

nerf or buff, I just wanted that to be stated for the record.

I don't think anyone was trying to make that point. It was just apparent that the character's mobility, mainly backwards mobility in my opinion, is too much in a game where other character's movement is limited by stamina.

 

[SaltShaker]

Ed boon called the design team and told them to do something before EVO. Something will be done before EVO lol.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Salt what the hell even is that image?

 

[Zoidberg747]

I agree with you, but it does speak for the record that, this was her first major and she was probably the first good DLC character to come out so far for this game when released. (Jason and Goro were definitely not, but Goro really shouldn't count.) It was gonna take a lot of people time, and likely to play against these players or CDJr, to know her true strengths.

But if Ed is already calling the design team... You just gotta hold dat. I don't agree with her being nerfed, only having her teleport adjusted fairly. (No armor, and no invul frames)

But NRS, as you know, loves to butcher things people boo in public.

She was allowed for ECT.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Tom was sitting next to him and called a local player in my scene.

... Oh boy. Well, thanks for the clarification man.

... Yikes.

 

[Crimea]

Ed Boon called the design team and told them nerf Sub Zero)))

 

[RM_NINfan101]

She was allowed for ECT.

... That's right she was. I forget because I literally didn't watch ECT because I figured CEO was gonna be the better Major and you actually got to see Tanya at her A game.

 

[SaltShaker]

Salt what the hell even is that image?

It's the end result of my prior stance which was this-

 

[WidowPuppy]

Guess I should just be happy that Netotigr was too busy to attend CEO this weekend.

 

[Immortal]

It's the end result of my prior stance which was this-

You should pick up Goro atleast then you can be sure that your character wont be raped (normalized) to the ground.

 

[Blonde_Huntress]

To be fair, they really do need to do something with that teleport. It really is a bit much, even with the nerfs it received.

I agree that obviously the top players could have made it regardless, but it is a bit ironic that there really did seem to be a reliance on Tanya versus their usual mains.

The proof will be if they still stick with her after her apparent inevitable nerf.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

To be fair, they really do need to do something with that teleport. It really is a bit much, even with the nerfs it received.

I agree that obviously the top players could have made it regardless, but it is a bit ironic that there really did seem to be a reliance on Tanya versus their usual mains.

I don't find it ironic at all. She's new, she's clearly top, and gave them the best chance to win.

What's absurd is that patch glitch, and NRS once again releasing a character in DLC that's better than almost the entire roster from the start.

(They aren't the only devs guilty of that, looking at you Arc Sys with prepatch Kokonoe in BBCP.)

 

[Insidiousballer]

Just got back from ceo and had to pass along that during one of the many tanya mirrors in top 8 the crowd was counting teleports and got to 79 in one of the matches. I don't know if this next part is true, but apparently all changes need to happen in the next two days if they want them to be in effect for evo, so something could be changed very soon. Now, I'm not going to evo, but for those that are, keep your eyes and ears open, and remember to test everything yourself instead of trusting patch notes because there could be stealth changes as well.

 

[STK]

everyone just found out what made her good not everyone needs to fine out how to punish her. Its to early to call out normalization. I hope no one in the chi is paying this thread any atention. lol

 

[@MylesWright_]

Stronger cases have been made against characters worse than Tanya being nerfed and have failed

 

[Blonde_Huntress]

I don't find it ironic at all. She's new, she's clearly top, and gave them the best chance to win.

What's absurd is that patch glitch, and NRS once again releasing a character in DLC that's better than almost the entire roster from the start.

(They aren't the only devs guilty of that, looking at you Arc Sys with prepatch Kokonoe in BBCP.)

I gotta say it's slightly ironic only because Yomi had such a HUGE reliance on Tanya. Yomi are all great players, which is why it was disappointing to me.

Shout out to D.R. and Honeybee though for not hopping on the Tanya train. It was nice not seeing a Tanya mirror match every so often.

 

[snort]

Her teleport is stupid.

 

[XaviProfetul]

What if teleport would use stamina? (Maybe somebody else suggested this, but well 19 pages ...) - this nerf shouldn't only stop at Tanya's teleport though :-P

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

I play lao, a character who deals with Tanya just fine, but I can see how stupid she is.

If she goes untouched we'll end up with a clear cut counter pick circle yet again.

 

[Pan1cMode]

I play lao, a character who deals with Tanya just fine, but I can see how stupid she is.

If she goes untouched we'll end up with a clear cut counter pick circle yet again.

I feel Tanya does poorly against Lao, Shinnock and Kenshi and goes even with D'Vorah, Raiden and Kitana.

The rest I don't know about, although she definitely beats Jacqui baaaaaaaadddly

 

[RunwayMafia]

I just think the majority of Tanya complainers are shit players to begin with. I mean...so she's hard to catch. Boo fucking hoo. She is less than adequate up close (except for Kobu, which probably should be nerfed).

Air mobility such as hers cannot hurt you. Unless you suddenly forgot how to block, anti air, or simply walk away and punish.

And for the players who are in fact good that are complaining about her...she already lost her armored EX teleport. That's more of a nerf than Erron Black, Sonya, Jin, Kung Lao, Jax, Cassie, etc.,

You guys are just lazy and cant stand a character that flips the script on the already bland meta of the game. This is why I supported ice clone even though I mained Unbreakable.

Tanya was sent to test you all...and you all failed MISERABLY.

 

[Pan1cMode]

I just think the majority of Tanya complainers are shit players to begin with. I mean...so she's hard to catch. Boo fucking hoo. She is less than adequate up close (except for Kobu, which probably should be nerfed).

Air mobility such as hers cannot hurt you. Unless you suddenly forgot how to block, anti air, or simply walk away and punish.

And for the players who are in fact good that are complaining about her...she already lost her armored EX teleport. That's more of a nerf than Erron Black, Sonya, Jin, Kung Lao, Jax, Cassie, etc.,

You guys are just lazy and cant stand a character that flips the script on the already bland meta of the game. This is why I supported ice clone even though I mained Unbreakable.

Tanya was sent to test you all...and you all failed MISERABLY.

The invincibility on aerial teleports is annoying, especially if you make the correct read to anti-air and then get blown up because it hits during one of her many invincibility frames.

In terms of aerial mobility, it's Pyro's thing, she needs it in this variation. I'm not sure she needs invincibility or for it to be 1 frame (if it actually is 1 frame mind you) but a stamina hit on her teleport would completely destroy her meter building and her (punishable on read) runaway game.