Question - Tanya How good is Tanya...really?

[Temptress]

Yup. That's what i was getting at.

But yeah. We need to nerf Dark Shroud.

Not you, but man. I don't get this thread at all.

This is hilarious coming from a Summoner Quan Chi main.

 

[Error404]

Dispite how much I love me some Tanya, I gotta say how she was built up kinda pisses me off. Lookin at her variations, how they were designed to play differently, I can see how much detail and time they spent on her to make each stance feel unique. So far she is the embodiment of how this variation style works. Each style can contest for your top pick. One doesn't overshadow the other.

Now what the fuck happened with Subz-Unbreakable?

Unbreakable gives you a free punish on every string that has a gap and gives you massive damage reduction. Its very underplayed but otherwise its very good.

 

[Crimea]

#BuffDarkShroud
make it a restand

 

[Pan1cMode]

every character

Raiden, Cassie, Johnny, Ermac, Scorpion, Shinnock, Quan

Can do it meterlessly, everyone else has to use a MB grab which can be teched.

 

[wsj515]

Fox managed to antiair MIT a few times and convert into damage, but in the end it wasn't enough.

I'm not even suggesting adjusting or tweaking Tanya's other tools, just air Teleport. I don't think them costing 1 bar stamina will limit her that much. She doesn't use stamina in the ground anyway, and would still have access to ground teleport to move and dodge around. If I'm missing something --the big picture if you will-- I'm more than willing to admit I was wrong. Having said that, watching the best EB look helpless against the best Tanya takes the player factor out of the equation, leaving only the characters themselves to make an assessment: Tanya is certainly equipped with a very powerful tool that could be toned down just a notch.

She's a damn good character, but I'm confident in saying that Tanya's a pretty bad MU for EB so its not quite fair to use it as an example of her overpoweredness, better to look at the larger cast as a whole and how they can compete with it rather than just EB.

Why do people put definitive numbers out there? We don't even know the tiers of characters that were there from launch, now we know Tanya's placement? Tiers are MATCH-UP BASED!

Amazing how people are forgetting this. Problem is it seems people are scared to talk about MU's cause they think they will get blown up, such is TYM

 

[Eddy Wang]

Fucking thread of the week right here, YEAAAAPPP

btw @YOMI MITYEAP what's your take on this?

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Raiden, Cassie, Johnny, Ermac, Scorpion, Shinnock, Quan

Can do it meterlessly, everyone else has to use a MB grab which can be teched.

what about Jacqui's Shotgun? and doesn't Cyber Kano have a plus frames restand?

 

[Rude]

This is hilarious coming from a Summoner Quan Chi main.

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I'm on the Tanya player's side. That initial post?

Sarcasm. Jesus.

 

[M.D.]

Op as fuck, yes, were you expecting an argument or what? Lawl.

 

[Temptress]

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I'm on the Tanya player's side. That initial post?

Sarcasm. Jesus.

Sarcasm is almost impossible to detect via text due to the lack of intonation and facial expressions, but I apologize.

 

[Pan1cMode]

what about Jacqui's Shotgun? and doesn't Cyber Kano have a plus frames restand?

True, forgot about Jacqui shotgun. She's so shit I forgot she was in the game lawl.

I'm not sure cyber Kano's restand leaves you at enough plus frames for pressure, much like cryo sub zero's restand.

 

[GAV]

I think her character design as far as her move-set is ingenious.

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

A zoning character's tools require patience to get around and everyone is demanding nerfs.

im with you on the let it rock vibe but then you switch it up and don't want raiden to let it rock? The other 2 variations are mid tier, if you nerf yet another fundamental move it will bring them even lower

 

[WidowPuppy]

True, forgot about Jacqui shotgun. She's so shit I forgot she was in the game lawl.

Don't know whether to laugh or to cry. The only "A tier" character that NO ONE uses...

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Don't really want to argue tbh but my take since @Eddy Wang tagged me is that she is top 5 imo and her variations are so diverse i am not sure which one is the best but kobu suits me best so I roll with it (at least till I learn the other two)

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Don't really want to argue tbh but my take since @Eddy Wang tagged me is that she is top 5 imo and her variations are so diverse i am not sure which one is the best but kobu suits me best so I roll with it (at least till I learn the other two)

But is she broken?

 

[Embestone]

I got to play Wonder Chef's Tanya (Dragon Naginata) in the grand finals of WNF last night, and I absolutely got my shit pushed in. I had very, very llittle match up knowledge of Tanya prior and I feel Tanya greatly benefits from that. She seems so different from the rest of the cast, and you really need to approach her differently than any other character. With that said, I wouldn't go crying for nerfs just yet. People should level up and lab the shit out of her (Myself included) and once we get a better understanding of her, we can discuss whether or not she's actually broken.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

But is she broken?

Broken? Nope. Even if she stayed how she is right now, I wouldn't consider her broken.

 

[Rude]

im with you on the let it rock vibe but then you switch it up and don't want raiden to let it rock? The other 2 variations are mid tier, if you nerf yet another fundamental move it will bring them even lower

I wasn't arguing in favor of nerfing Raiden. I was arguing against the idea that the character would be useless if a move did change. There's a difference.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Raiden, Cassie, Johnny, Ermac, Scorpion, Shinnock, Quan

Can do it meterlessly, everyone else has to use a MB grab which can be teched.

Venomous dvorah

 

[Noserfatu]

Yet other characters with more options and more tools are fair because they play like Marvel? Maybe we should concentrate on balancing them first before a two week character that will soon be figured out, no?

Off the top of my head characters with 3 tournament viable variations-

Jax. Quan Chi. Johnny Cage. Cassie. Kenshi.



Apparently.

Why are you bringing up marvel in an mk discussion? Who has more options and tools than Tanya? Do they also have air 50/50s and teleport?

Also, my statement about being an illiterate rush down fool was a sarcastic reference to m2 daves post. If you did not pick up in that, then it is disheartening to see you rush to passive aggressively insulting someone with a different opinion than yours.

 

[SaltShaker]

Why are you bringing up marvel in an mk discussion? Who has more options and tools than Tanya? Do they also have air 50/50s and teleport?

Also, my statement about being an illiterate rush down fool was a sarcastic reference to m2 daves post. If you did not pick up in that, then it is disheartening to see you rush to passive aggressively insulting someone with a different opinion than yours.

Your reply to my post had so much fail in it that I wouldn't know where to start. All I can say is "lol".

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

I wasn't arguing in favor of nerfing Raiden. I was arguing against the idea that the character would be useless if a move did change. There's a difference.

TG wouldnt be useless, just like TG wasnt useless after f1 was nerfed, but now the other two variations are (the mid into shocker was the only thing making people not just duck from a certain range because the other f2 mid wiffs at long range, 214 is now super stuffable so i have to resort to d1 . If anything needs to be adjusted its the unique moves to TG not the fundamental ones

 

[Bender]

Too early to tell, but I think she has all the tools to be S+ when all is said and done. Time will tell.

Edit: I don't even think the original roster has been explored enough, let alone dlc's.

 

[Ares_Supreme]

As a Scorpion main I beat Tanya players by simply jumping like a noob all game and catching them in 40% Combos lol. Teleport deez nuts.