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Which good character's bad variation is going to get buffed the most?

KingKhrystopher

KingKhrystopher

Official Merlin of TYM
Assassin and Mournful Kitana
Ethereal Mileena
Lasher Takeda
Reptile All
Warlock Quan Chi (but maybe he needs a bad variation...)
Relentless Jason
Dualist Liu Kang
Would have said Kenshi All, like Reptile, but dat Kenshi Treatment Patch tho...
 
SidTheHaze

SidTheHaze

25th place Tempest Lao
I'm trying to main demolition Sonya and the fact that the frame data says grenade on block is +58 when realistically its close to like +5 really rubs me the wrong way. 63 recovery frames no matter how many grenades your trying to get back. EX grenade toss being almost useless. Idk there are just so many holes in the variation meanwhile they buff fisticuffs to top tier status FML.
 
NHDR

NHDR

Kombatant
Erron Black (Gunslinger), Scorpion (Ninjustsu). I'd definitely give each character a look if they both got some buffs.
 
BloodyNights

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
I think some people didn't read the op about it being good characters who have bad variations. lol

Spectral Ermac is pretty crap...
 
NorCalSamurai

NorCalSamurai

Bacon Lettuce Tomato
SidTheHaze said:
I'm trying to main demolition Sonya and the fact that the frame data says grenade on block is +58 when realistically its close to like +5 really rubs me the wrong way. 63 recovery frames no matter how many grenades your trying to get back. EX grenade toss being almost useless. Idk there are just so many holes in the variation meanwhile they buff fisticuffs to top tier status FML.
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It was the one I wanted to be good.

:(
 
TarkatanDentist

TarkatanDentist

Kombatant
BloodyNights said:
Kitana Mournful....cuz wut is dis variation. just kidding her entire character needs work so she's out.

I'd like to see Gunslinger Erron Black, or Ninjitsu Scorpion get buffed.
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It's funny, because Mournful is actually generally considered to be her best variation - at least safe chip damage is a thing in that variation lol.

Also I'm a little skeptical of OP's claim that Demolition!Sonya is 'bad'. Like... it gives her better combo abilities, better pressure and a much better wake-up game; doesn't seem like something to write off too quickly IMO.

And while I don't see it happening, it would be mildly hilarious if Pain and Gain!Ferra/Torr got buffed e.g. Pain and Gain health loss is halved, and damage boost buffed - Bane v2.0 in every sense of the word. :D

Shotgun!Jacqui is also one I'd like to see boosted up a little - atm it doesn't feel like there's a huge amount of reason to use it over High Tech....
 
Harlequin969

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Ancestral KJ only needs a minor buff, get rid of the arrow timer. Makes his threat a lot bigger and better

Spectral Mac needs a full rework or a few new moves.

Gunslinger Erron is kinda okay. I'd like more damage on SoS moves or for coin trick to be useful. (I only ask for this because I'm assuming variation specific changes, not character wide)

Warlock Quan needs another move for his fifty fifty outside of portal stab. Without it he's too meter dependent and with his normals being so slow, he suffers because his zoning isn't as good as the others while his main gimmick isn't strong enough. Maybe make portal grab overhead?

Not on the list but I think Unbreakable Sub could use some love. Faster startup on parry I think or give him another tool.
 
BloodyNights

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
TarkatanDentist said:
It's funny, because Mournful is actually generally considered to be her best variation - at least safe chip damage is a thing in that variation lol.
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I was under the impression that, that variation was her worst. Royal Storm>Assassin>Mournful. Due to her having slow normals, no good mix ups, and losing her air control, and really powerful meterless punishes.
 
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