Let's talk: MKX on PC

[GLoRToR]

In the end I want to blame the industry for platforms being different enough that it takes literal workdays to get a patch across them.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

I'm also inclined to agree with @GLoRToR . NRS probably, if able, would of ported it themselves. WB Games though, like all publishers have deadlines that must be met. If a game is delayed now? People take a significant pay cut, and that is mostly the explanation that despite all the new technology we have, the business practices have indeed gotten worse.

A good example of this: Rome II: Total War.

EDIT: Actually, I must be honest this has always been a thing with games, but with so many systems and companies and ports now the problem has grown exponentially larger.

 

[GLoRToR]

Also. You don't need two university degrees to know this about marketing:

Quality is the most important aspect of product market placement. More important than advertising, more important than fucking measuring up the market. It's just how we roll.

If WB Games wants to hold onto their numbers, they need to provide quality. This means that 'cuz there is so much development to be done even across platforms, they'll pick the one that's most popular and deliver, hard.

The main reason and I'm betting Tanya's head on it, for not having had it released to two more platforms (last gen) is exactly this reason: they want xbone to be top of the line so they gain the revenue to keep going.

 

[Smoke_Of_Finland]

This is simply a business policy. MK X had to come out before other FG's for next gen saturate the market, so it makes sense they didn't put much effort into the PC version and that last gen version comes later.

Not to sound like a know-it-all dick, but PC players had to know they were getting an inferior product. It's also a kind of a legacy thing: like buying Tekken/Soul Calibur for Xbox, there will be less players to play with and they will generally be worse than those on Playstation due to the first titles being exclusive for Playstation, ported from arcades. Buying FG's for PC is never a good move, you'll get people with intentionally shitty connections doing max damage combos on you with recorded macros while you can't even get your reversals to come out on time and all sorts of shit.

Buying the wrong game for the wrong platform is just letting yourself get suckered, they are just there to steal your money and give you an inferior gaming experience, cuz hey, maybe you'll like the game anyway and buy the next title that comes after, along with a new console or PC. Corporations don't give a shit if your jimmies are rustled.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

If you want to believe that NRS has any parley with HVS, that is. I'm fairly positive that it's WB Games in charge of outsourcing it to those incompetent fools.

Ahh, thats very true. Could be either way. You'd think that NRS could have some pull here, hell it might have been their decision entirely, no-way to know for sure, but I guess it's not fair to attribute this one to NRS. What does Warner Brothers track record look like for this?

 

[GLoRToR]

Also I will say PC Gaming has been having a bad time with optimization. I dunno why but it seems like shit is constantly not working for specific cards and I have no idea why.

Because the coming shift from screens to visors is a bitch to accomodate when there are five different products and all of them are under hush-hush.

 

[RVB]

The only way that any of us are going to get a shred of information is to maybe make a support ticket and ask one of the poor souls attached to your case, that is if you got an issue with the PC version.
Let's be honest here, everyone that got MKX PC has and issue of some kind with it, technical or otherwise.

 

[GLoRToR]

Everybody in the display industry wants people to be able to deal with the visor tech to some degree but they also want you to buy the brand new shiny card when it happens. It's already happening, O-R CV2 can be ordered in the mail. Not as shiny as people want it to because having two screens right in front of your pupils is not going to be healthy like, EVER, but it's hype.

 

[Smoke_Of_Finland]

A good example of this: Rome II: Total War..

I am so fkn happy I didn't buy a new PC for this , Played the shit out of Rome 1 and Medieval II, but it looks like Creative Assembly, along with Blizzard and the whole of the gaming industry has decided to go down the shitter with half-assed releases.

 

[GLoRToR]

Ahh, thats very true. Could be either way. You'd think that NRS could have some pull here, hell it might have been their decision entirely, no-way to know for sure, but I guess it's not fair to attribute this one to NRS. What does Warner Brothers track record look like for this?

WB Games has a spotless track record because they outsource. You'd have to basically, dig through every release every outsourced game ever and break them down and compare them. But it's still not WB Games' fault if their sources don't deliver.
Corporate for you. Corporate is always spotless. Hard to catch them red handed. Could do, but it would do you more pain than them any harm because they have the numbers, deadlines met and releases accomplished with end-user sales through the roof.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

I am so fkn happy I didn't buy a new PC for this , Played the shit out of Rome 1 and Medieval II, but it looks like Creative Assembly, along with Blizzard and the whole of the gaming industry has decided to go down the shitter with half-assed releases.

Off topic, but I was a big fan of the Total War series. While I have heard Attila: Total War was a lot better, everyone wanted Rome II to be good. The fact that it took a year's worth of patches for a game so behind was embarrassing for both The Creative Assembly, to TW fans, to everyone.

Also, let this be a lesson: Look into what you buy, or learn from it. I bought BF4 at launch when the PS4 came out. Ran like shit for three months straight before it took them a few more months to stabilize the servers. Never bought another BF game or even an EA published game since.

 

[GLoRToR]

tbh the industry has to stop treating game development as deadline projects and learn from Blizz.
You can call them a lot of bad things for a lot of bad design choices, horrible concept art, bad as fuck policies and the works, but those guys know how to deliver. No. Company. Ever. EVER.
FUCKING EVER.
Never fucking ever trumped Blizzard in quality assurance. Those guys are razor sharp and on nano needle point with their game quality.
I'm done drooling. Sorry. Profession affliction.

 

[Smoke_Of_Finland]

Hahaa Electronic Arts is a fkn disgrace. Last NHL I bought was 12. Some time back they linked a user submitted gameplay video of NHL 15 where a goalie blocked a shot so it bounced back to center ice, causing a break-away that ended in a goal. Laughed my ass off, still every casual who played or likes hockey and owns a console buys NHL every year for full price.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

WB Games has a spotless track record because they outsource. You'd have to basically, dig through every release every outsourced game ever and break them down and compare them. But it's still not WB Games' fault if their sources don't deliver.
Corporate for you. Corporate is always spotless. Hard to catch them red handed. Could do, but it would do you more pain than them any harm because they have the numbers, deadlines met and releases accomplished with end-user sales through the roof.

Than is it possible that this falls back on NRS?

 

[GLoRToR]

Than is it possible that this falls back on NRS?

You'll never find the people responsible, bro. That's my point. HVS points you at WB, WB points you at development. Barking up the wrong tree. You'll be chasing your own fucking tail for days before you give up and you'll be tossed a bone when you're about to dig yourself a hole to keel over in.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Than is it possible that this falls back on NRS?

No. NRS is simply only a development team working for WB Games.

It would be WB Games, who essentially verifies all decisions made on Mortal Kombat and it's titles and brand etc... That would be the one to receive the flak, as they are under the WB Games name.

 

[GLoRToR]

Be patient, PC is last on delivery because there is way more money in consoles until people grow a fucking brain and stop buying consoles they'll throw away in one FIFTH the time a PC will serve them for.
But PC lasts. It genuinely does. And so will mkx on PC.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Also NRS is not in any way responsible for the PC port. Because they did not make it, they are not liable for anything. High Voltage Studios however, well that would be between them and WB Games.

 

[Shadow316]

@I GOT HANDS

You said that you can't run it on your 'shoddy computer', this to me means your computer isn't good enough. If your computer isn't good enough to run it, then yes, that's your fault, not NRS's. Unless you mean the game wasn't optimized well, then that's a different matter and moreso HVS's fault.

You seem to be under the impression that I think, "You've bought your product, deal with it whether it works or not." Not what I'm saying at all. You have every right to be upset if your product isn't working as intended.

But the pricetag attached to the PC port means it deserves far more attention than it has received towards fixing the issues it has, there is no comparing this to NRS delaying a pre-gen release, that by all means they have no obligation to even provide and would be morally sound decision just to not release it at all should they so decide. Your bias is incredibly evident.

Wow, really? How ignorant. NRS are releasing MKX for PC and last-gen, so yes, last-gen has just as much of an obligation to receive the game as PC. If you think it's fine for NRS to just ditch last-gen after claiming to release for it, that's worrying for the industry that that's actually acceptable.

You also mentioned a tournament you wanted to attend. Now think of the players that wanted to learn the game on last-gen, then compete, those guys are much more screwed than you in this case.

We're both being screwed, whether you want to admit it or not. Please stop treating this like a one-up contest, we both have our own issues with the game.

 

[kabelfritz]

lol twitter is a public riot platform now?

 

[RM_NINfan101]

@I GOT HANDS

You said that you can't run it on your 'shoddy computer', this to me means your computer isn't good enough. If your computer isn't good enough to run it, then yes, that's your fault, not NRS's. Unless you mean the game wasn't optimized well, then that's a different matter and moreso HVS's fault.

You seem to be under the impression that I think, "You've bought your product, deal with it whether it works or not." Not what I'm saying at all. You have every right to be upset if your product isn't working as intended.



Wow, really? How ignorant. NRS are releasing MKX for PC and last-gen, so yes, last-gen has just as much of an obligation to receive the game as PC. If you think it's fine for NRS to just ditch last-gen after claiming to release for it, that's worrying for the industry that that's actually acceptable.

You also mentioned a tournament you wanted to attend. Now think of the players that wanted to learn the game on last-gen, then compete, those guys are much more screwed than you in this case.

We're both being screwed, whether you want to admit it or not. Please stop treating this like a one-up contest, we both have our own issues with the game.

NRS are not responsible. They did not make the last gen or PC ports. I feel I need to state this as this is a common misconception. The ports are being handled by HVS, aka High Voltage Studios. They have a horrible track record, and made PC ports of MK9 and I believe even Injustice.

The fact of the matter is, NRS and Boon had stated on many occasions they were not working on the last gen ports of the game. He did however take forever until the Angry Joe Show interview to mention PC was not done by them either, but was also being handled by HVS. He said it should be just as good as the console version. What else was he gonna say?

As for the PC Port? Likely due to time constraints, it was also given to HVS.

Fighting game ports, especially on PC are always very suspect and usually bad. It's always good to ask around and do some research before you buy a game like this on PC, or any system. I do feel for the last gen users and PC users. Especially since it does seem like WB Games kinda fucked this up a bit and maybe should not of had one team tackle three ports at once or even use HVS at all, but it's crazy to see all the blame get put on NRS. All they did was the PS4 and XB1 versions, that's it.

 

[Shadow316]

@RM_NINfan101 - My bad, I had HVS in the second part of the first paragraph but forgot to change it for the first part.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

@RM_NINfan101 - My bad, I had HVS in the second part of the first paragraph but forgot to change it for the first part.

S'all good, just gonna have it there because there's so many people that believe that NRS did this when they were never given the chance to haha.

 

[Braindead]

We're atm one patch behind, which is the June 1st hotfix. I'm a MKX PC player but let's not go overboard.. Hell we even got Tanya before PS4 so you can tell they're.. trying?
i'm one of the few where the game runs with no issues, the fact that only a few get to run it properly says it all tho obviously.

I do agree on them needing to fix the weird memory leak and all the other ones making it unplayable or run at a shitty framerate even when your PC specs are more than enough to handle the game. From the looks of it tho I don't they know how to fix it as they've release multiple patches that were supposed to fix said issues but they still plague the game.

For now they need to at least give us an ETA on when we'll get the June 1st hotfix. I want my fixed Jacqui damnit :|

We're missing 3 hotfixes:
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-5-20-15/ba-p/513275
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-5-20-15/ba-p/514315
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-6-1-15/ba-p/534237

Not sure if the 2nd one is needed on PC.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

We're missing 3 hotfixes:
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-5-20-15/ba-p/513275
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-5-20-15/ba-p/514315
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-6-1-15/ba-p/534237

Not sure if the 2nd one is needed on PC.

Holy shit they're that behind and the last gen ports aren't even done yet? Oh man this is gonna be quite a trip... *grabs popcorn*