What are your serious opinions about Mortal Kombat X?

[WakeUp DP]

I'm not sure; Brady did it on stream yesterday, but I can't test it because PC poverty race doesn't have the patch yet .

Hmm I was gonna blow you up but you seem nice.

But see this is what I dont like, people complaining about things that they dont even understand.

What is high damage if the char is weak overall?

 

[haketh]

LOL is that seriously your answer? Never get touched? Wow I have some serious leveling up to do if I'm gonna get on your level.

Yes, that is the answer, learn your spacing, learn when you can poke back, learn when you can put them in the blender. Don't do all this bitching & complaining that it's the games fault you get opened up once & it never stops.

To be fair, you listed 3 players who are making full use of nonstop 50/50s -- haha.

Smart players takae advantage of early game lack of knowledge & consistently beat people up with bad defense, shocker of the century.

 

[BlackJackSnack]

Seriously in love

 

[WakeUp DP]

Lol at this "if you're getting 50/50'd then it's your fault for getting put in that position" nonsense. What insane footsie skills are involved in performing Ermac's soul capture, Quan Chi's trance, or Scorpion's spear mid-combo? Deeeeyum yo that SKILL HYPE!!

Well if your defense is that weak then manage your meter better so you can either armor or break out of bad situations.

Idk what you would do if you had to block all those insane ambiguous mix ups in SF5 or Marvel 3 lol.

 

[Zoidberg747]

To be fair, you listed 3 players who are making full use of nonstop 50/50s -- haha.

Non stop 50/50s are called vortexes, and none of those characters have them

Lol sorry, couldn't resist. I get what you're saying but have to point out that King played Batman in Injustice who had no 50/50s and Lao in MK9 who also had no 50/50s. Same with the others. You cannot honestly imply that those players won just because of their characters having some 50/50s.

 

[Death]

Again no, because she could just do f112. If she does run up f22, you're getting hit -- and if she does run up f112, you have to hold 50/50.

Ducky's not having any problem converting these.

I'm looking forward to your Dvorah at EVO this year.

 

[WakeUp DP]

Perhaps that post is out of line...this is nrs games we are talking about.

I suppose, my reflection is based only on my perspective and not the community as a whole. I never thought I would feel this way about MKX. I'm super disappointed because what I loved about mk9 is non existent in MKX.

Perhaps my emo is getting the best of me.

All that said...MKX was supposed to be the God sent MK of all MKs. And to me (and apparantly many others) it is far from that.

Those others are very few, most of us love the MKX, no game is perfect.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Non stop 50/50s are called vortexes, and none of those characters have them

Lol sorry, couldn't resist. I get what you're saying but have to point out that King played Batman in Injustice who had no 50/50s and Lao in MK9 who also had no 50/50s. Same with the others. You cannot honestly imply that those players won just because of their characters having some 50/50s.

Batman did have a 50/50 reset in Injustice post-grapple. Batgirl had a vortex, and MMH had 50/50's as well.

Yet still looking at Injustice, there was plenty of footsie-based gameplay to go along with it.

But you're saying something different than what I said. No one is implying that MKX's absolute best players couldn't win in other games without them -- that doesn't change the reality of what's most effective in MKX.

 

[haketh]

To be fair, you listed 3 players known for their breakneck rushdown who are making full use of nonstop 50/50s -- haha.

Picking 3 traditionally footsie-oriented players who are winning with footsie-oriented gameplay would probably have been a better argument

How is their gameplay not footsies oriented? Is Wong's gameplan not footsies oriented because after converting off of his footsies *Which is a huge part of footsies* he's able to get his mixup game going? I get the point you were trying to make but it's completely awful when you've gotten some experience in FGs under your belt.

 

[Deleted member 9158]

I doubt I am the only one who feels this way, but it feels like Injustice:Fatality edition to me. I like the game, but I feel like I am playing an M-rated version of IGAU sometimes.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Those others are very few, most of us love the MKX, no game is perfect.

This may be where we agree to disagree.

To the masses you may be correct. Those who don't know any better and to the casual players this is the best thing ever...but to me and to many others I have spoken to (many of which won't voice this opinion out loud) we ar e disappointed in this game thus far.

End of story.

 

[Linkuei82]

Perhaps that post is out of line...this is nrs games we are talking about.

I suppose, my reflection is based only on my perspective and not the community as a whole. I never thought I would feel this way about MKX. I'm super disappointed because what I loved about mk9 is non existent in MKX.

Perhaps my emo is getting the best of me.

All that said...MKX was supposed to be the God sent MK of all MKs. And to me (and apparantly many others) it is far from that.

What was it that you loved about MK9 that is not in MKX?

 

[haketh]

But you're saying something different than what I said. No one is implying they couldn't win in other games without them -- that doesn't change the reality of what's taking place in MKX.

What's the reality of it? A majority of us have bad footsies & defense so when we play against people with good footsies & good offense they're gonna blow us up. Whoooooo this game has mixup, something no other game has not even MK9.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Batman did have a 50/50 reset in Injustice post-grapple. Batgirl had a vortex, and MMH had 50/50's as well.

Yet still looking at Injustice, there was plenty of footsie-based gameplay to go along with it.

But you're saying something different than what I said. No one is implying they couldn't win in other games without them -- that doesn't change the reality of what's taking place in MKX.

Its the same thing though, Fox and King both play plenty of footsies during the course of their matches. Saying otherwise is silly. Every time they whiff punish something, that is part of footsies. The only real top player I have seen go 100% full rushdown is Slayer, and that was the first big tournament of the game where no one had a clue how to fight Kung Jin.

 

[Faded Dreams V]

Pretty mixed opinions. Almost... 50/50.

 

[WakeUp DP]

This may be where we agree to disagree.

To the masses you may be correct. Those who don't know any better and to the casual players this is the best thing ever...but to me and to many others I have spoken to (many of which won't voice this opinion out loud) we ar e disappointed in this game thus far.

End of story.

You just called me a casual and ended the argument? Cool.

I also know how to play sf4 and KI3 I'm not a casual, I understand highe level gameplay. I personally dont love 50/50s everywhere but we got breakers and armor so it ain't that bad.

 

[Linkuei82]

Those who don't know any better and to the casual players this is the best thing ever.

Lol what does that even mean? To those who don't know any better or for casual players? I know you are emo man but come on. You don't think players from the past said that in the past about Mk3, 3D MK, or MK9? I think you were expecting MK9 2.0 which we all knew that wasn't what it's going be.

 

[Ugodimak]

I'm starting to think that the OP had this debate about MKX compared to MK9 and 50/50's all planned out from the start.

 

[Matix218]

I dont miss Cyrax 90% resets, command grabs and overall.
Dont miss Kabals nmdcs EHNMDCs either.
dont miss Sonnya scrubby gameplay.
Kenshi safe super armor bs.
JCs F3, nut punch, random advantage on block etc.
Dont miss P1 advantage. No trades etc.

This game is so much better, what I do miss is Lao being top tier. He is heavily normalized in this game.

yeah i cant argue with those things

mk9 had its share of problems for sure. maybe im just wearing nostalgia goggles tbh...

mk9 was the first game inthe fgc that i took seriously and got good at so maybe im just being overly nostalgic

 

[RunwayMafia]

I never remember MK9 having anyone hate on it besides the online. It was the best MK game we ever had till that point. The fact that this is even a debate is telling.

It really is telling. I'm actually shocked at how many of us our "meh" towards the current meta.

And lmao at people insinuating that if you call it a party game or merely disagree with the status quo (Reo, lol) you are somehow NOT GOOD or just dont understand fgs. Nah, I'm doing just fine, doesnt change my opinion/perception of the game.

I enjoy it and I'll def play it for real, but lol the game is very linear and has GLARING balance issues to say the least. Time does not change bizarre frame data...

 

[WakeUp DP]

What was it that you loved about MK9 that is not in MKX?

Probably Kabal EH NMDC, Cyrax 90% resets and command grabs, Kenshi gallons of safe super armor which juggles on hit, JC F3, Sonnyas D4 and EH Cartwheels etc.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

What was it that you loved about MK9 that is not in MKX?

Great question...when I'm done making dinner/eating dinner I'll post my reasons

 

[Pho Cubic]

The game overall is way better than MK9 it's not even close. People who say otherwise are nuts. There was so much BS in MK9. 9-1 matchups, glitches, scenarios where you had NO tools to deal with various things, P1 advantage, etc. C'mon people. Now I'll throw you a bone...

- MK9 had a better roster than MKX
- In terms of single player content the story mode was better & personally I prefer the challenge tower to these new ones
- I miss babalities & other funny shit that was in MK9

....but don't sit here & say the gameplay was better. That's ridiculous.

Is it perfect? No. The netcode is absolute shit. I feel that too many strings are minus on block, which results in many players throwing out 50/50s all the time (which is why many non-pro players are complaining so much, but you don't see it at much in high level play). Also I think that in general zoning is too weak in this game (save for a few exceptions i.e. Summoner Quan, Cybernetic Kano, Full Auto Jacqui, etc). Also I want stage fatalities back. Those are pretty much my only complaints.

Great game. I hope NRS keeps fine tuning it. Also please bring back stage fatalities. Worst idea ever getting rid of those. I'd prefer stage fatalities to faction kills.

 

[Asodimazze]

I prefer MKX roster, the new characters are really cool

 

[WakeUp DP]

yeah i cant argue with those things

mk9 had its share of problems for sure. maybe im just wearing nostalgia goggles tbh...

mk9 was the first game inthe fgc that i took seriously and got good at so maybe im just being overly nostalgic

Oh dont get me wrong I love MK9 but it was far far far far from perfect.